Solving Brake Problems
Removing Brake Drums
A few key points with drum brakes. The first is getting the drums off. This might be one of your biggest hurdles. I start by hitting the center of the drum between the studs to knock it loose. This often gets me where I need to be. However, if I have a lot of trouble, I employ other methods. Some brake drums have provisions to insert bolts to help you remove the drums easier. You just need the correct size bolt. Once you have the bolts, insert them into the holes in the front of the drum and run them down. This causes the drum to pop off the hub and come off. It’s sort of like using a reverse puller. Here’s a video.
Another issue you might run into is a rust ridge on the inside of the brake drum.
This ridge extends past the brake shoes; this can make removing the brake drums very difficult. In order to get around this, you need to loosen the self adjuster for the brake shoes. Most drum brakes have provisions to access the self adjuster for the brake shoes. You often need to remove a rubber plug in the drum or the backing plate to gain access.
You need to turn it in the opposite direction it normally travels in order to contract the shoes enough to remove the brake drum. This can be a real pain, but it’s the best way to deal with this issue.
However, if you find that either you don’t have access to the adjuster or the adjuster is stuck, you have other options. When confronted with this, I cut the heads off of the nail heads for the brake shoe hold-downs on the back of the backing plate. If you grind the tips of these hold-downs off, you can release the brake shoes from the backing plate. You’ll be able to remove the drum, but it will probably come off as a pile of parts when you do this. I hope to make a video on this at some point. For now, refer to the brake shoe replacement video to see where the nails are located.
One other method to remove a stubborn drum is to use a special drum puller. You might be able to rent one of these from your local auto parts store. You install the tool and crank it down, and the drum should come off.
Click here for the link to the Drum Puller.
One last thing on the rust ridge: If you’re just replacing the shoes and not machining or replacing the brake drum, I’d recommend grinding off the rust ridge on the drum before installing it back on the vehicle. This will make it much easier to install the drum and adjust the brakes.
Tapered Roller Bearings
Some drums (and rotors) have a set of bearings housed within them that hold them to the spindle. You can often spot these by the bearing cap in the center of the hub assembly.
You remove these in a very different way than the methods mentioned above. With this type of setup, you need to remove the bearings in order to remove the drum or rotor. After you do this, it’s a good idea to clean and service these bearings once you’re done with your brake work. It’s also a good idea to replace the bearing seal at the same time. Here’s a video on the process.
One last note here. If you have a tapered roller bearing set up on your drums and you’re having trouble getting the drum off because of the rust ridge or some other issue. Bolt the wheel back on and remove the drum and wheel as an assembly. In fact I often just do it this way to save time. You don’t need to remove the wheel from the drum with this set up to service the brakes. Wouldn’t you rather just remove one center nut instead of a wheel and a center nut?
6 thoughts on “Solving Brake Problems”
Sami
March 19, 2023 at 11:10 pm
Thanks for sharing this article! This is really informativ.
Jeff Young
February 15, 2021 at 12:37 pm
Hi Eric love your channels. I have a 2010 Dodge Journey RT. It hasn’t had much use over its lifetime with only about 40k on it. The issue I’m having is that brake pedal will travel to the floor the more pressure that’s applied to it. The rear calipers have been replaced and the brake fluid has been flushed with no improvement. There is no sign of fluid loss. Any thoughts on what might be the cause? Thank you sir.
Dan Piper
November 26, 2020 at 2:37 pm
I ordered your recommended booster and master cyl as suggested in your video -” how to fixed a spongy brake pedal in a chevy truck. The booster doesnt fit
James
October 25, 2020 at 4:59 pm
Hello, I’ve got a 94 civic that I went to upgrade the old soft lines to new braided lines, but in doing so I discovered that the original owner torqued the flare nuts on too tight and now there’s a leak from two of the fittings. So I guess my only option is to make all new steel brake hard lines for the car. Any tips before I do so? Thanks
Ricky
August 13, 2020 at 2:50 am
Thanks for showing me that my rear brakes are causing my truck to shutter. Will dig into the rear brakes.
Gary Walcott
April 7, 2020 at 2:08 am
Hi Eric Got a 98 Continental replaced left rear caliper because of brake dust. It was sticking pretty good. Both rear I found are sticking but turnable. The front don’t spin completely free as well but mechanic thinks is normal. The left rear he said order caliper for that as well. I am thinking master cylinder. What do you think?