Solving Automotive Electrical Problems
Solving Automotive Electrical Problems
This section is split into different parts, starting with coming up with a plan. I can’t cover all contingencies here, but I’ll do my best to cover the basics to give you an understanding of how to go about solving an automotive electrical issue.
Come up with a Plan
As mentioned above, you will have a much better chance of success if you have a plan going into an electrical problem. Here’s what I normally do when dealing with an electrical issue.
First, a good inspection. I start at the battery. If it looks old or corroded or has loose terminals, I deal with that first. I know not all electrical issues are the result of battery issues, but considering its importance in the electrical system, it’s worth at least a glance when you open the hood. If you suspect an issue, check the surface voltage, load test it, clean up, and deal with any battery terminal issues you might have.
Next, check all the fuses — and I mean all the fuses. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve fixed an electrical issue just by replacing a fuse. If that same fuse continues to blow, you need to look further into that. Most times if there’s a recurring problem, the new fuse will blow almost as soon as you put it in. If it doesn’t, activate the affected system and check its operation. If it’s good, monitor it until you feel confident it’s not going to have a problem again.
If you do have an electrical problem, find a wiring diagram for the affected circuit. Without it, you’re lost. The best wiring diagrams, in my experience, are put out by the manufacturer. Do what you can to get your hands on one of those when dealing with an electrical problem.
Once you have the wiring diagram, study the circuit. See if you can figure out what the issue is before you even go to the vehicle to do your testing. It is possible to do this with a bit of practice and the ability to read a wiring diagram. Sometimes you can look at the diagram, find related circuits that might be affected, test those, and find the problem through a process of elimination. This is really where your plan gets put to use.
I like to start at the load when checking for electrical problems, especially with 12V systems. I do this especially if the load is easy to get to. What I mean by load is the component(s) the circuit controls. In the case of a cooling fan circuit, the cooling fan is the load. All the other controls of the circuit are there to control the operation of the fan, or load. I do this because I often find it’s the load itself that’s failed. I also do this because the load is sometimes more accessible than the wires or controls going to it. I can unplug the load and check for power and ground to the component.
If I don’t have either one of those, I know where to go next. If I do have those, I check the operation of the load itself. If it’s a cooling fan, I run power and ground directly to it to see if it can operate on its own. If not, I know it’s bad and I can replace it.
If it does work, I’ve got more investigating to do. Sometimes you can have power and ground in a circuit and it’s not enough to work the load. This can be due to a short circuit or increased resistance in the circuit somewhere. Once again, we go back to the wiring diagram to try to figure out where that might be and come up with a plan for testing the suspected part of the circuit.
Once you’re done finding and repairing the problem, verify your work. Make sure everything works like it’s supposed to. This way, you can avoid having to deal with it again in the future.
Check the Battery
In the simplest terms possible, I’m going to cover the basics. The first thing to know is that all the electricity in an automotive system begins and ends at the vehicle’s battery. This is the heart of the system. If you don’t have a good battery and perhaps the voltage is a bit low, everything else in the vehicles electrical system will be effected.
Don’t rule out engine performance issues here. Your vehicle’s computer speaks in the language of voltage. If it doesn’t see proper voltage signals or doesn’t have enough voltage to run properly, everything will be affected. This is especially true with newer vehicles that rely on a lot of electronics. Electronics, especially computer-controlled electronics, are very sensitive to voltage changes, especially low voltage. If they don’t have enough voltage to operate, they tend to act strange, or, in some cases, even fail.
My point: When dealing with any automotive electrical issue, start with the battery. Check its voltage and its state of charge. A good battery should have at least 12.6V for a static charge. It should also be able to pass a load test and stay above 9V when placed under load. Here are two videos about checking an alternator and a starter on a vehicle where you can put this knowledge to use.
Before we’re finished with the battery, let’s talk about one more thing: connections. I would wager that about 90% of electrical failures are the result of poor or inadequate connections. In addition to checking the battery, also make sure you check its connections and cables. I’ve seen my fair share of electrical problems caused by bad connections. If you have a lot of corrosion at your battery terminals or the terminal isn’t tight to the battery, this can cause an electrical problem. Clean and tighten the battery connections and recheck for your electrical issue if this is what you find. Here’s a video to help you out.
Check the Fuses
After making sure your battery is good, the next step is to check all the fuses. Notice I said all the fuses, not just the ones involved in the circuit that’s having a fault. On more than one occasion, I’ve found a good fuse for the affected electrical system I’m trying to repair, and another fuse that seemed unrelated that was blown, which was the problem all along. It’s worth checking all the fuses if you have an electrical failure. Nothing is more frustrating than tearing an entire vehicle apart looking for a problem in a wiring harness only to find that it was a blown fuse the whole time.
Lastly, don’t forget about the large fuses that might be physically attached to the fuse box. Say you have a no-start condition, perhaps after attempting to jumpstart the vehicle. If the cables get hooked up wrong, it will normally blow one of these main fuses. So if you have a vehicle with no electrical power at all and a good battery, check the main fuses. You might find one that’s blown.
Find a Wiring Diagram
Would you go on a long road trip to someplace you’ve never been without a map or, at the very least, some directions? Probably not. The same is true for electrical problems. Don’t get into an electrical diagnosis without a wiring diagram. It will take longer and perhaps cause you a great deal of frustration if you don’t have a wiring diagram for the circuit you’re working on. A wiring diagram is the roadmap for a particular circuit. Without it, you’re lost.
I realize that if you don’t know how to read a wiring diagram, you’re in the same position as not having one. If that’s the case and you’ve checked all the basics and still have an electrical problem, perhaps it’s time to take the issue to a professional. It might seem expensive up front, but in the end, you might find that you save a great deal by not pursuing the problem yourself.
If, however, you do know how to read a wiring diagram, do your best to get your hands on one for the circuit you’re working on. It’s not often you find these online for free; you normally have to pay for them. BBBind.com has some free diagrams you might find helpful.
Once you’ve found the diagram and have studied the circuit, try to come up with a plan for testing that can yield you a result. With an understanding of the circuit and a good idea of what the issue might be, I’m sure you’ll be able to solve the problem in a reasonable amount of time. If you go in blind, expect it to take a lot longer, and the results might not be what you expect.
Relays
Relays are used throughout automotive electrical systems. The purpose of a relay is to allow a low-amp circuit to control a high-amp circuit. Relays are just electronically controlled switches. You might find that one relay contains multiple relays inside it. This is common in modern systems. If you’re lucky, a wiring diagram and terminal label will be printed on the outside of the relay. This will make your life much easier. If not, try looking for terminals of the same color. This normally means that they are part of the same circuit. This information might not always work for you, but it’s done well by me for years now.
There are two basic parts to a relay: the coil and the switch. The coil is the control circuit and is used to activate the switch. It does this using the electromagnetic principle. Once the coil is energized, it creates a magnetic field, which closes or opens the switch. That’s worth mentioning here. Some relays are normally closed and the activation of the coil opens the switch instead of closing it. This is where your wiring diagram comes in handy. Testing is fairly straightforward. Just activate the coil and check the resistance of the switch circuit. This video will help explain it.
20 thoughts on “Solving Automotive Electrical Problems”
Hans Veen
January 12, 2024 at 6:15 pm
mein honda civic 1999, EK/EJ nach Zylinderkopfdichtung weches wolle nicht starten.alle kontrol lampen brennen. verteiler ausgebaut Zündspule + modul gewechselt. läuft. habe motor abgestellt, wegen akühlwarren war noch nicht im motor, dann wollte er nie mehr starten 3 wochen suchen. verbindung vom Zündschloss zum Verteiler, kommt kein strom an. nicht zu finden. suche schaltplah. eventuel ein versteckter relaey. sicherheits schalter gefunden. perfekt. brauche dringens einen rat. Hans Ibiza Spain
Dan Kafun
June 2, 2023 at 4:03 pm
Eric… having an issue with my 2004 Element.. electric windows sporadically won’t work..I believe it has to do with the wire loom in the driver side door.. Do you have any videos on how to work/ troubleshoot the wire loom where it goes through the rubber conduit from the door to the Door frame..??
Thanks
Dan
Paul
January 10, 2023 at 10:58 am
Good morning. Im a ASE cert mechanic that was givin a 1994 honda accord ex 4 cyl. i put a quick used engine. I thought it would be a good idea to let my daughter use it as a car to learn how to drive in. I drove it for 2 months as a back up car and all of the sudden……. crank, no start. THIS IS WHAT I NOTICED. I turn the key to the on position…….. no fuel pump prime noise, check engine on, and d4 will flash. ALL INTERMITTINLY, you could sit and wait……. and sometimes click, all the sudden check engine light goes out, fuel pump primes and runs like nothing ever happen. MY QUESTION IS. is there a wiring diagram you may have or can get for me to start checking for powers, grounds and ignition voltages for the computer, ignition/fuel pump relay, ignition switch. Sorry to bother you. Im the kind of guy that wants to keep old cars going. Thank you in advance. Asking from Modesto, Ca
Vince
July 11, 2022 at 9:39 pm
Hi Eric just watched a video of yours for the Odyssey, I have 2006 Odyssey I put a new alternator , it’s not charging, wish you were near me you are the person I would trust. I changed alternator fuse 70/120 checked all fuses with voltmeter on ohms,. I really can’t figure this out , paid extra money for new , Remy , called Remy customer service state it’s possible the regulator inside alternator is defective. I’m not a mechanic, diy took me 3 hrs to do this,I definitely installed correct.it starts then battery is drained as I check w volt meter. If you have time can you please let me know what it could be so a least I can go from there thanks
Phil B
May 3, 2022 at 2:52 pm
my problem, 2015 elantra, the left turn signal lites , when turned on , blink at twice the rate as the right ones , left is abnormal condition, now if left turn signal on , and headlights turned on , the left turn lites both go off. any help here ???
Steven Ortiz
October 22, 2021 at 2:45 am
Tail lights on when battery gets connected
Felix Gonzalez
September 24, 2021 at 3:07 pm
I have a 08 accord and it has the vsa abs and brake light on and the dtc code DTC 121-11 I would like to know what to do because I have herd of a system update I called the honda dealer where I live and they don’t know what to do
Peter B
November 8, 2022 at 1:30 am
I have a 2013 CRV and a very similar problem. The VSA light comes on when in reverse and doing a turn. The code that comes up is 111-11 and here also the local Honda dealer does not know what to do.
george rodriguez
April 19, 2021 at 6:48 am
inhave a ford 2005 superduty 6.0 the 10 milli wire that goes on the positived side sparks
Randy
February 15, 2021 at 12:52 am
I have a 2010 dodge charge
When it’s in cruise control it starts to shuts off after a while the engine willt shut off.
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Ross Melvin
October 28, 2022 at 10:43 am
HELLO…MY 30 FT. MOTORHOME HAS TOTALLY SHUT DOWN ELECTRICALLY. TURN ONTHE IGNITION AND NOTHING.. Was working fine till I parked it to winterize it..2 weeks later turned the key and nothing.Im wondering if it has lost it’s Ground….the vehicle is a 1997-98 GM Majestic Flyer ..
Remi
February 11, 2021 at 3:12 pm
Hey I have a problem I have a Honda Civic coupe 2005 I have change the speed sensors que the meter will go crazy and it shift hard a want to know what it could be because I already change the speed sensors
Shane Doxtator
February 11, 2021 at 2:52 pm
I have a 2007 Chevy Impala and i believe the issues i am having are stemmed from one. I was told it was a ignition problem don’t lock doors or it goes into security mode and you have to unplug battery until it resets. After i have drove it for a couple days i have realized that when the car isnt reading what gear it is in all the cluster gauges shut off and the doors start locking and unlocking, if i shut car off without seeing what gear it is in it goes into security mode. I also noticed whenthe cluster gauge goes out there is a noise by the fuse panel inside car
Areg
October 19, 2020 at 11:38 am
I have an 2012 civic ex. I have only 1 working key and want to buy 1 more and program it to the car… My question is what is the proper part number for my car key and how to program it to my car?
JERRY T.
August 15, 2020 at 12:39 am
I got this 2008 Chevrolet Aveo 5 4 door, can’t seem to find the power door lock relay for it the locks will trigger without hitting the key pad on my keys for it & it has drained batteries mis- firing. checked on all data but either I misnamed it or something
Nolan Ancel
August 12, 2020 at 2:57 pm
I have a problem with my 2009 Mitsubishi lancer SE… I am starting to lose hope. I did a parasitic draw test and took out 2 fuses that were pulling .84A. Now my car draws .07A or around 70mA. But my battery still dies… I don’t know what to do… I really love this car but for now it isn’t really reliable…
Scott
October 5, 2020 at 7:18 pm
Eric: finally a mechanic who understands cars.
Question: got a 2005 Chevy Express 3500, 6.0l, 4L80tranny.
Problem: when idling, vehicle shakes, kinda like a misfire. Their is no code.
I had a new engine installed, but new engine does same as old engine.
No mechanic has been able to guide me to a fix.
Any thoughts? 864-325-9939.
Juan Pendon
May 29, 2020 at 1:15 am
I got a problem on my dodge caliber 2008 sxt. Horn not working. I can’t find the horn relay. Need your help.
Jonathan Vasquez
May 9, 2020 at 7:51 am
Hi Eric, thank you for helping people like me fixing my own car. Have a question? My 1st and 2nd ignition coil is misfiring. They are both new with new spark plug. So i’m guessing the wire is broken is maybe the Computer module is messed up. Any tips or advice what to look for and how to fix it. Appreciate and thank you so much.
Ken Kastelic
May 1, 2020 at 2:51 am
Hi Eric, Love your videos. I have an Acura Tl type S 2007 (92k mls) and love the car. Its just i gave it to my wife and it just not her type of car. Maybe a little too sporty for her. I just watched you video on replacing the timing belt and water pump before i sell it. My problem is that i do have aftermarket wheels on it and the “TPMS” light is always popping up. How do i fix that issue? I bought new sensors and had someone install them but it still is happening. I want to sell it, but I want it to be a great car for the next buyer. Thank you so much for what you do. It is really appreciated.