No Spark
Another common cause of a no-start condition is no spark, or no ignition. It’s the first thing I check for with a crank/no start condition. No-spark conditions can have a number of causes, but for starters, we need to know if we have spark when we crank the engine.
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As shown in the Crank/No Start video, you can easily check for spark with a spark tester or screwdriver. In fact, with a crank/no start condition, I often check for spark first since it’s usually the easiest thing to check. Just be careful, as some ignition systems pack quite a punch and you don’t want to get shocked during your testing.
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If you find you don’t have spark, the next step is to determine if the problem is in the primary or secondary side of the ignition system. The primary side of the ignition system includes all the stuff before the ignition coil. This includes the igniter or ignition module, the pick up coil or crank sensor, the cam sensor, and the ignition switch itself. This varies greatly by manufacturer, so you’ll have to do a little homework to see how your ignition system is supposed to work, as well as how to go about testing it. The short of it is that the primary side of the ignition system tells the ignition coil when to fire. If it’s not told when to fire or it has a weak signal, then the coil won’t work right and you won’t have spark.
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The testing for this varies greatly, but here are a couple of videos that explain a little more about the process of testing the primary side of the ignition system.
The secondary side of the ignition system is a little easier to diagnose since it mostly involves similar parts. The secondary side of the ignition system is everything after the ignition coil output. So if you isolate your ignition coil and you know you have spark coming out of it but it’s not getting to the spark plugs, you have a problem with the secondary side of the ignition system. This could mean a problem with the distributor cap, the rotor, the wires, or the spark plugs themselves. These parts include much of the secondary side of the ignition system.
With this type of failure, I usually just follow the chain from the coil to the plug to find the failure. Most times I find a bad ignition rotor or distributor cap, or occasionally a bad set of ignition wires.
Be sure to inspect the distributor cap and rotor for carbon tracking. Carbon tracking is when an electrical short is created by carbon deposits inside the distributor cap or rotor. These can be tricky to spot, but they look like tiny lines that connect different terminals inside the cap or on the rotor. This shorts out the secondary ignition and it never reaches the spark plugs.
I’ll go out on a limb here and say that if you have a problem with the secondary side of the ignition system causing your no-start, just replace everything: the distributor cap, ignition rotor, wires (HT leads, depending where you’re from), and plugs. These are maintenance items anyway so replacing them really can’t hurt.
Video Title: No Spark- No-Start Problems – EricTheCarGuy Video Description: In this topic, No Spark, Eric looks at what can be the cause of No Spark with your vehicle
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fred Rumbolt
April 6, 2020 at 10:43 pm
THE VEHICLE WORKED FIND BEFORE STARTER ISSUE>>> I have a problem with a 2012 500,1.4 litre (non turbo engine), Standard Shift. 130 Kilometers we had problem with the starter, sometimes it would turn over sometimes it wouldnt,,, (it was the starter, as it was corroded and the poor design engineered connector to the starter . it was very tight place and hard to get at so Replaced “a new”starter and genuine fiat connector and cleanup grounds and plus added a new extra #2 ground strap and also ran another ground ran directly to bolt on starter for good measure. reconnected battery after all the work was done. started every time no problem, (20 times to be exact). went to drive to road test and get computer to “learn”,,,, then realized……. no gas pedal response,it would idled over only. no matter if i pushed on pedal no resonse..mmmmm.. so i disconnected the battery,after both disconnected terminals, touched positive and negative terminals togather to drain capacitors by pumping brake pedal and to “reset” the ecu. Reconnected terminals, cranks over fine, now it wont start, no spark ,replaced Crank sensor. (5 volts going to sensor with key in the on position,so i figured it must be sensor),no such luck. still no start.cranks fine and no attempt to start,no spark>>> checked all fuses with ohmeter buzzer, everything is fine on both inside and outside fuse panels. relays click when key is turned ok…what am i missing here???, any help please. ty