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I’m under the impression, that the tires have relatively little to do with gas consumption. Some, but little. Also I’m under the impression, that the car engine runs most economically when it reaches its operating temperature of maybe around 80°C (I guess around 176°F), and if one drives short distances, during the winter time the car just doesn’t have enough time to reach that temperature during those short trips. Cold starting a car also consumes a lot of fuel. I’m not sure if this is true these days anymore, but I’ve heard talks about one coffeecup of gas per cold start. If you drive short distances, stop and start your car often, you’ll probably use more fuel. Preheating when leaving home might help a little, not just ease the cold start, but also make winter driving more economical fuelwise.
To help the car warm up faster during driving some people at least here in the Northern Europe cover their cars’ masks (or even the under the engine) with cardboard / something more sophisticated to alleviate the effect of wind and breeze during driving and to allow the engine to reach the optimum operating temperature quicker. Or to prevent the breather-hoses from freezing and the spewing of the engine oil all over the engine compartment… #intakeManifoldFacingTheFrontOfTheCar… :dry:
I’m under the impression, that the tires have relatively little to do with gas consumption. Some, but little. Also I’m under the impression, that the car engine runs most economically when it reaches its operating temperature of maybe around 80°C (I guess around 176°F), and if one drives short distances, during the winter time the car just doesn’t have enough time to reach that temperature during those short trips. Cold starting a car also consumes a lot of fuel. I’m not sure if this is true these days anymore, but I’ve heard talks about one coffeecup of gas per cold start. If you drive short distances, stop and start your car often, you’ll probably use more fuel. Preheating when leaving home might help a little, not just ease the cold start, but also make winter driving more economical fuelwise.
To help the car warm up faster during driving some people at least here in the Northern Europe cover their cars’ masks (or even the under the engine) with cardboard / something more sophisticated to alleviate the effect of wind and breeze during driving and to allow the engine to reach the optimum operating temperature quicker. Or to prevent the breather-hoses from freezing and the spewing of the engine oil all over the engine compartment… #intakeManifoldFacingTheFrontOfTheCar… :dry:
Hi 10nico, and why yes, couldn’t think of a more appropriate nick for a car related forum than my car’s model.:) You basically own the older sibling of my car, the BX that is.:) I got Xantia as my first self-owned car, and I’m pretty happy with it, although it’s soon 19 years old, and Citroens have a bit of a reputation at least here in Finland. That being said, the owners of Citroens do not agree with the reputation, and neither do I. Though I don’t mind it either, got mine relatively cheap because of that, and haven’t really had a problem, even in the winter times. 😆 Suspension spheres should be changed some time soon, otherwise no major issues.
But yes, maybe the costs are similar accross Europe, or at least EU. Probably some eu-wide directives dictate the ownership taxes? Also the insurance system sounds like the one here. In Finland owners of enough old well-kept and faithfully restored vehicles can “museum-register” their cars. I don’t know excactly the criteria, but I’m under the impression, that not just any old piece of junk qualifies, but the car has to be maintained or restored well. With those cars you can drive for one month per year (in our conditions that usually means summer time), and taxing and probably insurances are cheaper as well, I don’t know the excact pricing.
The hot topic right as we speak is switching the taxing somehow to a system, where the amount of tax would be based on how much you drive per year in kilometers. A sensible idea in itself, but the reason for the topic being hot is the system that is being planned. Which is equipping cars with some type of gps-device, that would track how much is being driven… Needles to say this raises some privacy concerns. :dry: Just reading the kilometers from the odometer during the annual inspection (or MOT, that was the word I was looking for!) would probably just lead to people tampering with their kilometers, so that isn’t any good either.
But hey, cheers! *cluncs down a sip of lhm :sick: * Ever owned or considered the XM? Those seem pretty cool too, but I’m under the impression that maybe more skills in car repairing would be benefitial with those..
Hi 10nico, and why yes, couldn’t think of a more appropriate nick for a car related forum than my car’s model.:) You basically own the older sibling of my car, the BX that is.:) I got Xantia as my first self-owned car, and I’m pretty happy with it, although it’s soon 19 years old, and Citroens have a bit of a reputation at least here in Finland. That being said, the owners of Citroens do not agree with the reputation, and neither do I. Though I don’t mind it either, got mine relatively cheap because of that, and haven’t really had a problem, even in the winter times. 😆 Suspension spheres should be changed some time soon, otherwise no major issues.
But yes, maybe the costs are similar accross Europe, or at least EU. Probably some eu-wide directives dictate the ownership taxes? Also the insurance system sounds like the one here. In Finland owners of enough old well-kept and faithfully restored vehicles can “museum-register” their cars. I don’t know excactly the criteria, but I’m under the impression, that not just any old piece of junk qualifies, but the car has to be maintained or restored well. With those cars you can drive for one month per year (in our conditions that usually means summer time), and taxing and probably insurances are cheaper as well, I don’t know the excact pricing.
The hot topic right as we speak is switching the taxing somehow to a system, where the amount of tax would be based on how much you drive per year in kilometers. A sensible idea in itself, but the reason for the topic being hot is the system that is being planned. Which is equipping cars with some type of gps-device, that would track how much is being driven… Needles to say this raises some privacy concerns. :dry: Just reading the kilometers from the odometer during the annual inspection (or MOT, that was the word I was looking for!) would probably just lead to people tampering with their kilometers, so that isn’t any good either.
But hey, cheers! *cluncs down a sip of lhm :sick: * Ever owned or considered the XM? Those seem pretty cool too, but I’m under the impression that maybe more skills in car repairing would be benefitial with those..