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Yes, that confirms what my code reader displayed. I’m planning to check my MAF sensor first as that is easy to do and might be causing the misfiring. There is a small hole in my muffler but of course that is downstream of the post-cat O2 sensor and probably not a factor.Here’s the latest.
Turns out that the input shaft is different than mine so I’m out of options with this transmission and it is going back to the seller. I’m demanding a full refund including shipping. The seller has escalated the case for eBay to arbitrate. They will be reviewing all of the back and forth and I expect after reading all of illogical rants they will side with me. One memorable quote from him: “VIN don’t mean nuthin.” How this guy had a 100% rating is the biggest mystery of all.Found a fabulous youtube video by Hiram Gutierrez on rebuilding the 4L60E. Here’s a link:
I sent him a message with some pictures of the two transmissions and he agrees that it is not for my vehicle. He referred me to his parts supplier who helped me put together a rebuild kit and I’ll do it myself with Hiram’s videos. He’s even offered to help me along if I hit some snags. Great guy!
(…my wife of course thinks I’m crazy)
Here’s the latest.
Turns out that the input shaft is different than mine so I’m out of options with this transmission and it is going back to the seller. I’m demanding a full refund including shipping. The seller has escalated the case for eBay to arbitrate. They will be reviewing all of the back and forth and I expect after reading all of illogical rants they will side with me. One memorable quote from him: “VIN don’t mean nuthin.” How this guy had a 100% rating is the biggest mystery of all.Found a fabulous youtube video by Hiram Gutierrez on rebuilding the 4L60E. Here’s a link:
I sent him a message with some pictures of the two transmissions and he agrees that it is not for my vehicle. He referred me to his parts supplier who helped me put together a rebuild kit and I’ll do it myself with Hiram’s videos. He’s even offered to help me along if I hit some snags. Great guy!
(…my wife of course thinks I’m crazy)
Eric, you nailed it- the extra inch is in the bell housing! I’ll check carefully about swapping them but this could be the answer.
Eric, you nailed it- the extra inch is in the bell housing! I’ll check carefully about swapping them but this could be the answer.
Thanks. The thing that I find truly perplexing is that I don’t know how to order what my van needs. Even my NAPA store seems a little unsure when it comes to my transmission. My van is a GMC Savana 2500 but it is not a true 3/4 ton because it has the 5L engine and 6 lug wheels. I asked them to quote a rebuilt 4L60E and they say that they don’t show one for the 2500 but they do for the 1500. My local GMC dealer looked-up the VIN and said the van came with the 4L60E. Maybe I’ll just take it to a reputable transmission shop and pay them to rebuild my tranny- let them figure it out.
The eBay seller talks down to me like I’m an idiot. He can’t form coherent sentences while I have a BSME and am a damned decent mechanic. Eric, what do you think about my idea of cutting an inch off of the drive shaft’s female spline. I can later fashion a bell housing cover to fit and tap some mounting holes in the bell for screws. Seems like there is plenty of engagement at the spline and it would allow me to mount the drive shaft. Everything else goes together alright. Otherwise do you think the 4L60E would perform in my van or am I being stupid? I”m 99% there- I just want to fill it with Dex6 and drive it already!
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=111261]I wonder if the bell housing is different. If it is, perhaps you can swap your old bell housing for the new.
I feel your pain. I’ve run into similar issues after an install and had to go back and do the work all over again. Painful lessons we sometimes learn.
Keep us posted.[/quote]
Thanks. The thing that I find truly perplexing is that I don’t know how to order what my van needs. Even my NAPA store seems a little unsure when it comes to my transmission. My van is a GMC Savana 2500 but it is not a true 3/4 ton because it has the 5L engine and 6 lug wheels. I asked them to quote a rebuilt 4L60E and they say that they don’t show one for the 2500 but they do for the 1500. My local GMC dealer looked-up the VIN and said the van came with the 4L60E. Maybe I’ll just take it to a reputable transmission shop and pay them to rebuild my tranny- let them figure it out.
The eBay seller talks down to me like I’m an idiot. He can’t form coherent sentences while I have a BSME and am a damned decent mechanic. Eric, what do you think about my idea of cutting an inch off of the drive shaft’s female spline. I can later fashion a bell housing cover to fit and tap some mounting holes in the bell for screws. Seems like there is plenty of engagement at the spline and it would allow me to mount the drive shaft. Everything else goes together alright. Otherwise do you think the 4L60E would perform in my van or am I being stupid? I”m 99% there- I just want to fill it with Dex6 and drive it already!
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=111261]I wonder if the bell housing is different. If it is, perhaps you can swap your old bell housing for the new.
I feel your pain. I’ve run into similar issues after an install and had to go back and do the work all over again. Painful lessons we sometimes learn.
Keep us posted.[/quote]
I just had a thought, what if I cut just enough off of the driveshaft’s female spline to slide it forward and connect the u-joint. Even if I could get it together without doing that the splines meet at a hard stop and there is no room for movement between the trans ouput spline and the end of the driveshaft’s female spline.
I just had a thought, what if I cut just enough off of the driveshaft’s female spline to slide it forward and connect the u-joint. Even if I could get it together without doing that the splines meet at a hard stop and there is no room for movement between the trans ouput spline and the end of the driveshaft’s female spline.
I checked- the box is the same as the old one and body is an inch longer. If I could figure out how to get the driveshaft onto the diff then this thing might work. The bolts that keep the u-joint together have to go on after the spider is connected. I’ve seen some that have a flange that slips onto the diff after the u-joint is assembled to the driveshaft, but not in this case.
The seller says he’ll refund my purchase price, less original shipping and core charge if I ship his transmission back to him. I called the freight company and they say the cheapest rate I can get is $612 if I bring it to their terminal which is 20 miles away. I would loose less if I just let the seller keep all of the money I’ve paid him and toss the transmission into the bin.
I checked- the box is the same as the old one and body is an inch longer. If I could figure out how to get the driveshaft onto the diff then this thing might work. The bolts that keep the u-joint together have to go on after the spider is connected. I’ve seen some that have a flange that slips onto the diff after the u-joint is assembled to the driveshaft, but not in this case.
The seller says he’ll refund my purchase price, less original shipping and core charge if I ship his transmission back to him. I called the freight company and they say the cheapest rate I can get is $612 if I bring it to their terminal which is 20 miles away. I would loose less if I just let the seller keep all of the money I’ve paid him and toss the transmission into the bin.
Okay, I’ve got my new torque converter and spent last weekend doing the tranny swap. I get all the way to where I’m lowering the assembly onto the re-installed cross bar and notice that things are not lining up as they should. Then I try to re-attach the drive shaft and it bottoms out on the tranny output spline before I the rear end u-joint will go back together. Then I notice that the bell housing shape is different than mine and doesn’t have the mounting holes for the cover screw. I put a tape measure on both transmissions from end to end and the new one is about an inch longer than the old one! They both are stamped with the same part number GM 4L60E. The seller is telling me that this is my problem, not his.
Anyone have a clue as to how this could have happened? My service manual and dealer both confirm that my van was equipped with a 4L60E and that is what I bought for a replacement. How could two parts with the same number stamped on them be so physically different?
Okay, I’ve got my new torque converter and spent last weekend doing the tranny swap. I get all the way to where I’m lowering the assembly onto the re-installed cross bar and notice that things are not lining up as they should. Then I try to re-attach the drive shaft and it bottoms out on the tranny output spline before I the rear end u-joint will go back together. Then I notice that the bell housing shape is different than mine and doesn’t have the mounting holes for the cover screw. I put a tape measure on both transmissions from end to end and the new one is about an inch longer than the old one! They both are stamped with the same part number GM 4L60E. The seller is telling me that this is my problem, not his.
Anyone have a clue as to how this could have happened? My service manual and dealer both confirm that my van was equipped with a 4L60E and that is what I bought for a replacement. How could two parts with the same number stamped on them be so physically different?
Thanks Eric, I have learned much from your videos. I ordered the TC today- I agree better safe than sorry!
