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[TomRon]

OMG you always have to say something against it…

When you are new or mid-level, you aren’t as desirable on paper as the guy with 25 years and ASE master tech status.

have you ever tried to get such a job? …and not to know from hearsay.

There is always the possibility to change to a better situation… maybe you will have to make a compromise… relocate in another city or something else or you fear a fundamental change?
You will never find a perfect job which will fit your entire requirements, you will have to eat something as well…
bottom line… there are better jobs, you have to take it into account if the changes or compromises you will have to make are worth it or not.

Getting in will take time, so what do we do in the meantime? We work at dealerships and struggle to make the bills.

Educate your self… you don’t have to attend always for a school to accumulate knowledge… make self study… interest your self for different topics and new technologies. invest in degrees you realy need not in those you might think they would be good for you.
make your self interesting for the next company. train your self to present or even say to sell you at best at your next job interview. show the company what unique benefit they have if they have you!
no one will take you if you are so pessimistic… life is shit, industry is shit and the only hope is my faithful president… wake up… you have to change not your environment!

It’s hard to belive but the whole industry is like the nature. There is a natural selection… if you adapt to challenges you will live other wise you’ll die… that’s nature, that’s free market economy

[TomRon]

OMG you always have to say something against it…

When you are new or mid-level, you aren’t as desirable on paper as the guy with 25 years and ASE master tech status.

have you ever tried to get such a job? …and not to know from hearsay.

There is always the possibility to change to a better situation… maybe you will have to make a compromise… relocate in another city or something else or you fear a fundamental change?
You will never find a perfect job which will fit your entire requirements, you will have to eat something as well…
bottom line… there are better jobs, you have to take it into account if the changes or compromises you will have to make are worth it or not.

Getting in will take time, so what do we do in the meantime? We work at dealerships and struggle to make the bills.

Educate your self… you don’t have to attend always for a school to accumulate knowledge… make self study… interest your self for different topics and new technologies. invest in degrees you realy need not in those you might think they would be good for you.
make your self interesting for the next company. train your self to present or even say to sell you at best at your next job interview. show the company what unique benefit they have if they have you!
no one will take you if you are so pessimistic… life is shit, industry is shit and the only hope is my faithful president… wake up… you have to change not your environment!

It’s hard to belive but the whole industry is like the nature. There is a natural selection… if you adapt to challenges you will live other wise you’ll die… that’s nature, that’s free market economy

[TomRon]

I had a look on your flat rate video and I was pretty shocked about this group flat rate system…. unavoidable that there will be trouble inside the group because someone will always be disadvantaged.

I could only tell for the e-Drive industry, which I believe the trend will go straight upwards… on those parts of the vehicle no repair technician will put his hands under the housing cover… in other words these parts will be big replacement parts…. if there is a HW issue

[TomRon]

I had a look on your flat rate video and I was pretty shocked about this group flat rate system…. unavoidable that there will be trouble inside the group because someone will always be disadvantaged.

I could only tell for the e-Drive industry, which I believe the trend will go straight upwards… on those parts of the vehicle no repair technician will put his hands under the housing cover… in other words these parts will be big replacement parts…. if there is a HW issue

[TomRon]

Hello Eric

ok…now I understood you… as you said… no one in your last shop was adjusting the valve clearance except you let me assume that the majority of mechanics will not adjust them either… that let me estimate that an engine of this type will get in average a few adjustments over engine live cycle… and this is the point… an easy access to the valves is not mandatory because they don’t have to be adjusted very often.

You compared it to a diesel in a different vehicle altogether.

… just as I said…Just for an inferior comparison…

From an engineering standpoint a solid valve train is a much more accurate way of maintaining valve timing over hydraulic, less parts means less to break, it’s also cheaper to produce.

no points to complain here.. I’m with you…

BR
Tom

[TomRon]

Hello Eric

ok…now I understood you… as you said… no one in your last shop was adjusting the valve clearance except you let me assume that the majority of mechanics will not adjust them either… that let me estimate that an engine of this type will get in average a few adjustments over engine live cycle… and this is the point… an easy access to the valves is not mandatory because they don’t have to be adjusted very often.

You compared it to a diesel in a different vehicle altogether.

… just as I said…Just for an inferior comparison…

From an engineering standpoint a solid valve train is a much more accurate way of maintaining valve timing over hydraulic, less parts means less to break, it’s also cheaper to produce.

no points to complain here.. I’m with you…

BR
Tom

[TomRon]

sorry to say that, but as long valve tip clearance is a maintenance job, the valve covers must not be designed like this. Honda might design long lasting and reliable engines but from my point of view this could be designed much better…(point of view of an engineer) I know the dealer will be happy for a couple of hours of work for “just” adjusting the valve tip clearance banana: …. OMG…. what a business case (if there is nothing else in conjunction to do):woohoo:

Are there the same cylinder heads but with hydraulic lifters available… this would answers why the covers are so badly designed

Just for an inferior comparison…I did my last valve tip clearance several months ago on an old Perkins Diesel…. remove the bonet and valve cover and I was right on to correct the clearance … costs at all half an hour

[TomRon]

sorry to say that, but as long valve tip clearance is a maintenance job, the valve covers must not be designed like this. Honda might design long lasting and reliable engines but from my point of view this could be designed much better…(point of view of an engineer) I know the dealer will be happy for a couple of hours of work for “just” adjusting the valve tip clearance banana: …. OMG…. what a business case (if there is nothing else in conjunction to do):woohoo:

Are there the same cylinder heads but with hydraulic lifters available… this would answers why the covers are so badly designed

Just for an inferior comparison…I did my last valve tip clearance several months ago on an old Perkins Diesel…. remove the bonet and valve cover and I was right on to correct the clearance … costs at all half an hour

[TomRon]

Maybe you said it already…. what is the mile interval when you have to check the valve tip clearence

BR
Tom

[TomRon]

Maybe you said it already…. what is the mile interval when you have to check the valve tip clearence

BR
Tom

[TomRon]

Hy Eric,

Is there a good reason why Honda is using old school valve tip clearance adjustment instead of using self adjusting hydraulic lifters?

I was pretty shocked when I saw the adjusting screws on the rockers.
In my mind I was committed to that hydraulic lifters were out of engine design since the late 70’s and self adjusting lifters are at least the last 15 years state of the art???

The last time I saw this technology was on a BMW 320i E30 which was built in 1984 which had a M20 engine… but with the next generation of engines (M50) this all was changed to self adjusting hydraulic valve lifters.

Best regards
Tom

[TomRon]

Hy Eric,

Is there a good reason why Honda is using old school valve tip clearance adjustment instead of using self adjusting hydraulic lifters?

I was pretty shocked when I saw the adjusting screws on the rockers.
In my mind I was committed to that hydraulic lifters were out of engine design since the late 70’s and self adjusting lifters are at least the last 15 years state of the art???

The last time I saw this technology was on a BMW 320i E30 which was built in 1984 which had a M20 engine… but with the next generation of engines (M50) this all was changed to self adjusting hydraulic valve lifters.

Best regards
Tom

[TomRon]

Hello back again!

the engine is running! here a small video the last 3 months in 10 minutes:

http://youtu.be/V_VS11J1DZw

[TomRon]

Quoted From dollman0:

I made a tool like that before for use on wet liners. Usually I will send the block out and have the machine shop do this because there is always a danger of destroying the block if you screw up.

Yes with wet liners its easy.

Yes that was also my first thought to take the engine to a machine shop. But the prices here in Austria are so hight that it would not reckon to refurbish the block at a machine shopper. Just for an example, I took the cylinder head to a machine shop an they made me an offer of over 900

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