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[quote=”Evil-i” post=143780]Take the car to an empty paved parking lot, turn the radio and vent fans off, roll the windows down and drive in slow circles (both directions) and listen carefully for the noise. When you hear it, apply some brake pressure and listen to hear what the noise does. Does it go away, get louder, or stay the same?
Do the same slow-circling thing again, except this time apply the parking brake a notch or two and listen to how the noise behaves. Also be attentive to other things, like unusual body roll or shudder, or weird steering wheel feel, when the noise occurs.
Tell us how things went. Don’t become “target-fixated” when doing these noise tests. If the parking lot is dotted with lamp posts and shopping cart corrals, keep an eye on them. They are suicidal and are genetically disposed to jumping into your path when you aren’t watching.[/quote]
Will to the parking lot test and from what I’ve seen the noise goes away when applying the breaks.
I haven’t tried breaking with the parking break, but I have adjusted the parking break with no success, as I thought the it was catching on the inside of the rotor.
The noise goes away after I speed up. I only hear it when I’m on 1st gear and a little into 2nd gear, then it goes away.
[quote=”SilkyTP” post=143547]Don’t listen to me…
Can you make the noise happen without driving? That is, can you spin the wheel/rotor and make the noise happen?
If you grab the wheel at 12 and 6 O’clock, or at 3 and 9 O’clock, is there any movement?
Can you apply the regular brake (with a buddy) and watch the movement of the caliper/rotor – is the caliper piston moving the pads as it should? I would also be looking to see that when the ebrake is applied, that the rotor actually won’t move, and is reasonably centered.
My philosophy is that if the noise appeared after a repair, inspect the repair. When you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras.
Edit: Oddly enough, I found this thread just after posting…http://www.ericthecarguy.com/kunena/8-Service-and-Repair-Questions-Answered-Here/59134-unusual-noise-from-rear-brake-honda-element-awd%5B/quote%5D
Thanks for the reply
– If I lift the car and spin the wheel I can make the noise happen
– I exchanged the caliper and the noise is still happening. And everything seem to work as should
The noise seems to get worst after drive over pot holes and bumps on the road
UPDATE: #2
Everything was going good. But don’t no what I did and the scrapping sound is back.
I notice that the head of the brake caliper is rusted on the side it’s making the noise. This was a new caliper I bought 2 months ago.
UPDATE:
I don’t know what I did but the noise is gone. I’m guessing the break in period for the rotors I got was a bit longer than usual.
Thanks for all the help guys. This was the 1st time I ever did anything DIY related to cars and I think it went well. Def going to keep using this site for future repairs or upgrades.
Thanks
[quote=”ToyotaKarl” post=133491]The noise from a bearing generally is a roaring, however noise may be observed on a turn, from the opposite direction of the turn says something is wrong as well…
I.E. if you turn left, and you hear the noise on the right side, then something is suspect because the weight of the car when you turn left is on the right side… Is that when this is occurring? Does the noise only occur when turning one direction?
Also, hard to say what might be messed up without pictures or more detail if something went wrong… Also is this car a manual or automatic… Automatics ebrakes very rarely get used…
FWIW always make ebrake adjustments at the wheel before you make any adjustment at the handle inside…
The good news is if it is a bearing, it is easily replaceable as an assembly instead of a pressed in unit (like the fronts)…
Just throwing it out…
Bearing replacement info
-Karl[/quote]
-Karl
The car is manual and after breaking it in and messing around with the rotor and caliper, the noise happens only when I’m making right turns. So this makes sense since the noise is coming from the rear driver side (left).
So what do you think it might be?
Also I checked my tires and all three of them expect the driver side (where I’m having a problem) needs to be replaced,,,,could this cause the noise?
thanks
[quote=”Jinzo” post=133700]Dumb question have you made sure you seated everything properly. Also another possiblty is the wear indicator is on wrong so you might wanna check that to. Another thing you wanna check did you torque your wheel down properly cause sometimes that can cause a rotor to warp.[/quote]
Not a dumb question at all. I did make sure I seated everything properly and I even took the indicator off. Also I did tongue the wheel to spec.
To update, I’m still getting the metal scrapping noise but now It’s almost always exclusive when I’m turing or any slight right or left turns I make. Then I hear it a bit coming out of the turn and it goes away.
UPDATE
After I made more adjustments and played with the rotor….the sound seems to be very prevalent after I turn (either way). Also if I hit a speed bump or pot hole I hear it.
Anyone think it might be the e-brake shoe that i need to sand down a bit?
also, am I right to think it isn’t the bearing because the noise goes away after driving at high speeds and it more of a mental scraping than roaring.
[quote=”TokyoDrift99″ post=133512]Not the rotor, the linkage. It’s a common problem in toyota trucks for the parking break to freeze the wheels solid and release with a loud pop. Completely different situation I know, but just a idea.[/quote]
noob here, don’t know what linkage is….. Do you think it could be the e-brake shoe?
[quote=”TokyoDrift99″ post=133508]Is it rusty? E brake may be sticking on.[/quote]
The rotor? no the rotor is new.
I saw the vid of a bad wheel bearing and if def doesn’t should like a roar. Do you know if a bad wheel bearing will only make noise at low speeds?
It a scrapping loud noise that goes away when I go faster than 20mph
[quote=”barneyb” post=133492]I’d suggest finding which side is making the noise and going through that brake again – disassemble and reassemble. I had a brake screeching, passenger side rear, on my car. Took it apart, lubed and reassembled and the noise it gone. It just wanted a little attention.[/quote]
Rear driver side is where the noise is coming from.
I have reassemble it 3 times.
[quote=”ToyotaKarl” post=133491]The noise from a bearing generally is a roaring, however noise may be observed on a turn, from the opposite direction of the turn says something is wrong as well…
I.E. if you turn left, and you hear the noise on the right side, then something is suspect because the weight of the car when you turn left is on the right side… Is that when this is occurring? Does the noise only occur when turning one direction?
Also, hard to say what might be messed up without pictures or more detail if something went wrong… Also is this car a manual or automatic… Automatics ebrakes very rarely get used…
FWIW always make ebrake adjustments at the wheel before you make any adjustment at the handle inside…
The good news is if it is a bearing, it is easily replaceable as an assembly instead of a pressed in unit (like the fronts)…
Just throwing it out…
Bearing replacement info
-Karl[/quote]
It’s not really a roaring sound, more like a mental scarping which is why I thought It was the dust shield. The noise doesn’t just happen during a turn, but is definitely louder when turing. Turing either right or left.
The noise goes away when I pick up speed, but then starts when I’m go back down to 20-5 mph. Also It’s a manual car
Yes, I made an adjustment to the e-brak at the wheel but not inside. Do I need to do this? So maybe I should re-adjust the e-brake at the wheel (making sure the rotor slides out and back on easily) then adjust it inside.
Just a thought, if the e-break is the problem would I be able to smell a burning smell after driving (because I don’t). With a bad wheel bearing, does the sound go away the faster you go?