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point taken 🙂
I will not do it at the moment anymore and will keep focus on the more important things.

However just for sake of knowing if a 12v turbo would offer more power might be
something I play with one day just for educational purposes and let everyone know of my findings.
Don’t hold your breath because it might not happen at all 🙂 but I would like to know
if the kit I was talking about did do anything at all. I think I would like to know more
for my self then others do.

I guess for now it’s an end of topic about the 12v turbo; however if I ever do get around
to testing for experimental purposes I will keep you all posted of my findings.
It will not be something I keep connected or want to use anymore as I have taken all your
advise and do agree with most what has been said.

Knowing if something works or not helps with when needing to know for other reasons
if it is worth while trying it. I will use a old car and not mine when I do if I do.

I did ask about why does the conventional turbo need to be connected to the manifold
and not further along the exhaust, would it not be better for the turbo further away
from the heat? any input about this. not important to this topic I would just like to know why!.

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point taken 🙂
I will not do it at the moment anymore and will keep focus on the more important things.

However just for sake of knowing if a 12v turbo would offer more power might be
something I play with one day just for educational purposes and let everyone know of my findings.
Don’t hold your breath because it might not happen at all 🙂 but I would like to know
if the kit I was talking about did do anything at all. I think I would like to know more
for my self then others do.

I guess for now it’s an end of topic about the 12v turbo; however if I ever do get around
to testing for experimental purposes I will keep you all posted of my findings.
It will not be something I keep connected or want to use anymore as I have taken all your
advise and do agree with most what has been said.

Knowing if something works or not helps with when needing to know for other reasons
if it is worth while trying it. I will use a old car and not mine when I do if I do.

I did ask about why does the conventional turbo need to be connected to the manifold
and not further along the exhaust, would it not be better for the turbo further away
from the heat? any input about this. not important to this topic I would just like to know why!.

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Thanks Hanneman
Now I think I might site on this and have a real good think about it.
thanks for all the feedback everyone.

Idea,
I believe cold air intake is better then hot, would it be better if I could find a way to direct
more cold air? don’t know if I can! just asking.
would A high air-flow air filter allow better breathing.

Interested what tweaks I could think about that might help without coursing extra train
to the motor.

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Thanks Hanneman
Now I think I might site on this and have a real good think about it.
thanks for all the feedback everyone.

Idea,
I believe cold air intake is better then hot, would it be better if I could find a way to direct
more cold air? don’t know if I can! just asking.
would A high air-flow air filter allow better breathing.

Interested what tweaks I could think about that might help without coursing extra train
to the motor.

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[quote=”Wayne613″ post=91593]In that case just good maintenance, wear item replacement practices (oil changes, tire pressures, replacing components when recommended, etc) and cleanings of intake components is the way.[/quote]I already do that. it is cheap to run around but power to weight is bad, 2L motor pulling a 2ton van, on the freeways it cost just as much as a 4L motor. running around not going faster then 50 mile 80 Kilometers at the best of times & mostly 35 Mile it’s a sweet cheap ride. however I do drive long trips at least 4 times a year and $250 to drive 500 miles [800 Kilometers] is a joke. now you all got me thinking that it might not be such a good idea. Isn’t turbo’s meant to give better gas mileage and performance?

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[quote=”Wayne613″ post=91593]In that case just good maintenance, wear item replacement practices (oil changes, tire pressures, replacing components when recommended, etc) and cleanings of intake components is the way.[/quote]I already do that. it is cheap to run around but power to weight is bad, 2L motor pulling a 2ton van, on the freeways it cost just as much as a 4L motor. running around not going faster then 50 mile 80 Kilometers at the best of times & mostly 35 Mile it’s a sweet cheap ride. however I do drive long trips at least 4 times a year and $250 to drive 500 miles [800 Kilometers] is a joke. now you all got me thinking that it might not be such a good idea. Isn’t turbo’s meant to give better gas mileage and performance?

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[quote=”Wayne613″ post=91590]People don’t spend 5k-20k on these setups because there’s a $299 product that works with crimp connectors. [/quote] LOL nice

Either am I a formula one car racer or some 10 second wannabee
just looking for better mileage.

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[quote=”Wayne613″ post=91590]People don’t spend 5k-20k on these setups because there’s a $299 product that works with crimp connectors. [/quote] LOL nice

Either am I a formula one car racer or some 10 second wannabee
just looking for better mileage.

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thanks all for your replies and point taken on running lean, I have to then believe
that running a traditional turbo would also make the car run lean? Is it not also
forcing extra air for better power and economy?

Eric you have a good point about the traditional turbo over a powered turbo,
I am looking to better my gas per mile not so much the power but if it helped
give a little more power as well then that would be great.

Now I ask, because of Waynes post, if you install either method turbo
does the car need to be tuned to avoid running lean.

Also may I ask why is a turbo connected directly to the exhaust manifold?
there must be very high temp at that point, would it not make more sense
to have it connect somewhere else on the exhaust away from higher temp
if possible? the same amount of exhaust travels the hole pipe line.

I still want to install the turbo even if for nothing else other then experimental
and explain the out come to others. But now I wary about running to lean.

And other options like pro-turbo’s anyone used them? any good?
your lucky in the USA as parts are cheap but for me to get a traditional turbo in Australia
second hand is $2500 & the correct manifold $700 then I would need a new exhaust fitted as well.
even if I do all the work my self I am looking at about $3500 maybe more including the exhaust.

You see why I want to try the 12v option first, if it works then great but like I said the
running lean is a big concern.

Then again would the computer not relearn it self that there is more air and correct
it? If I was to relearn the computer.

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thanks all for your replies and point taken on running lean, I have to then believe
that running a traditional turbo would also make the car run lean? Is it not also
forcing extra air for better power and economy?

Eric you have a good point about the traditional turbo over a powered turbo,
I am looking to better my gas per mile not so much the power but if it helped
give a little more power as well then that would be great.

Now I ask, because of Waynes post, if you install either method turbo
does the car need to be tuned to avoid running lean.

Also may I ask why is a turbo connected directly to the exhaust manifold?
there must be very high temp at that point, would it not make more sense
to have it connect somewhere else on the exhaust away from higher temp
if possible? the same amount of exhaust travels the hole pipe line.

I still want to install the turbo even if for nothing else other then experimental
and explain the out come to others. But now I wary about running to lean.

And other options like pro-turbo’s anyone used them? any good?
your lucky in the USA as parts are cheap but for me to get a traditional turbo in Australia
second hand is $2500 & the correct manifold $700 then I would need a new exhaust fitted as well.
even if I do all the work my self I am looking at about $3500 maybe more including the exhaust.

You see why I want to try the 12v option first, if it works then great but like I said the
running lean is a big concern.

Then again would the computer not relearn it self that there is more air and correct
it? If I was to relearn the computer.

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I would like to see a demo of the boost I talked about in my first post/
105CFM = 6,300 cubic feet of air per minute.
That is a lot of air, now push that though 3″ how much compressed pressure is there?
can’t say none at all!! I don’t know how to calculate it. but would be a lot not nothing.

If the average car using 15:1 [15L Air 1L Gas] give or take
then would not 6300 Cubic Meters = 6300000 Liters of air pressure
be a considerable amount of air? and one would think maybe more then needed!!!.

Eric whats your thoughts mate.

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I would like to see a demo of the boost I talked about in my first post/
105CFM = 6,300 cubic feet of air per minute.
That is a lot of air, now push that though 3″ how much compressed pressure is there?
can’t say none at all!! I don’t know how to calculate it. but would be a lot not nothing.

If the average car using 15:1 [15L Air 1L Gas] give or take
then would not 6300 Cubic Meters = 6300000 Liters of air pressure
be a considerable amount of air? and one would think maybe more then needed!!!.

Eric whats your thoughts mate.

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I watch the YouTube clip, they are a joke, and they did not connect the boost correctly
at all. Funny to watch but they are wrong.

If they had read the directions they would have also noticed the boost must be driven
directly in front of the intake and not in front of the air filter.

What they were doing is simply almost wasting everyone’s time watching it but was good for a laugh.

What they were doing was pushing air into an air filter chamber a similar way an air compressor pushes air into a cylinder to compress air and maybe building up a little pressure in the air chamber.
and hopefully enough to push passed the air filter and into the inlet manifold.

Air filter chambers don’t seal air pushing in to them, they seal from suction.

Anyone with a little common sense could tell this test was not going to work before they tested it.

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I watch the YouTube clip, they are a joke, and they did not connect the boost correctly
at all. Funny to watch but they are wrong.

If they had read the directions they would have also noticed the boost must be driven
directly in front of the intake and not in front of the air filter.

What they were doing is simply almost wasting everyone’s time watching it but was good for a laugh.

What they were doing was pushing air into an air filter chamber a similar way an air compressor pushes air into a cylinder to compress air and maybe building up a little pressure in the air chamber.
and hopefully enough to push passed the air filter and into the inlet manifold.

Air filter chambers don’t seal air pushing in to them, they seal from suction.

Anyone with a little common sense could tell this test was not going to work before they tested it.

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Wow now that was a fast reply mate, My workshop manual tells me what it does and how to clean it remove/install. nothing about how it should be connect if installing a boost or supercharger.

The best spot where I have a lot of room to install this is between the motor and filter
so that’s where I will start and start tweaking from that point till I find what works best.

any heads up or advise will be appreciated.

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