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Yes it does BUT I don’t see it happening anytime soon
Dealerships seems to just burn techs OUT
With every one fighting for hours because
Of flat rate it’s became very stressfullYes it does BUT I don’t see it happening anytime soon
Dealerships seems to just burn techs OUT
With every one fighting for hours because
Of flat rate it’s became very stressfullOnly a very small minority like working on cars the majority of us old techs hate it
And I stand by how I feal the auto repar is so dead today just this week a big Chrysler just closed thier doors I don’t know one tech that is happy today
And the majority of the small shops around here have been really slow
A lot of people just don’t have the money to fix thier cars
This I will say is I am 100% sure any one that goes in to it today WILL be out of it in 5 years I have seen it a 100 times
Any one that thinks its not dead just does not want to see how it is todayOnly a very small minority like working on cars the majority of us old techs hate it
And I stand by how I feal the auto repar is so dead today just this week a big Chrysler just closed thier doors I don’t know one tech that is happy today
And the majority of the small shops around here have been really slow
A lot of people just don’t have the money to fix thier cars
This I will say is I am 100% sure any one that goes in to it today WILL be out of it in 5 years I have seen it a 100 times
Any one that thinks its not dead just does not want to see how it is todayYES I 2nd it GET OUT NOW the longer you stay in it the more you will HATE it
Been in it for 40 years now .Used to be fun NOT today .Todays cars and all the B/S that goes with it not enough
money in it any more( Flat Rate is a killer) ALL I got to show for it is way over 70,000 in tools and equipment and a body loaded with arthritis from working in a cold damp shop all day.
I tell every one that I see that is thinking about going in to this FOR GET IT YOU can do better doing something else
If you like working on cars them work on your own car or work on a hobby car
AND OH YES ITS DEAD ALL RIGHTYES I 2nd it GET OUT NOW the longer you stay in it the more you will HATE it
Been in it for 40 years now .Used to be fun NOT today .Todays cars and all the B/S that goes with it not enough
money in it any more( Flat Rate is a killer) ALL I got to show for it is way over 70,000 in tools and equipment and a body loaded with arthritis from working in a cold damp shop all day.
I tell every one that I see that is thinking about going in to this FOR GET IT YOU can do better doing something else
If you like working on cars them work on your own car or work on a hobby car
AND OH YES ITS DEAD ALL RIGHT[quote]canucktech wrote:
Im truly with you on all of your posts on this topic i work at a Nissan dealer in canada and have read all of your comments pertaining to this you make a great point. I see the same things you do. Flat rate has to be done with. The other day I watched a rookie tech (licensed mind you) ask how to hook a fuel pressure gauge up? REALLY!!!! This clown makes the same wages I do? He brings home the a bigger pay cheque because he avoids the diagnostic, warranty, electrical, trim, RO’s. But he’ll be first up for work when there is a Maint. or brake job coming through the drive thru. The kids coming into this trade have to understand who they work with. When they screw the older (not calling myself old really but I do have the highest seniority)techs those tech aren’t going to help them when they run into problems. I actually laugh when I watch them scratching their heads at a simple problem that I have figured out previously numerous times, yet i will never speak up, I have actually steered them in the wrong direction just for the sheer enjoyment for myself and other more senior techs.
/quote]All I can say is WOW
Like I said before I found at a dealership there was a lot of cut throat going on NO ONE WANTED to WORK together IT was I know how to fix this BUT I WILL NOT SHARE HOW TO DO. IT
At a fleet you DID NOT SEE THIS every one helped each other out
AND YES I AM A SENIOR TECH and I just cant see playing these baby games
My guess this is WHAT you get with this stupid flat rate system. Every one fighting for hours> This pay system NEEDS be done away with .ITs giving good techs a bad name[quote]canucktech wrote:
Im truly with you on all of your posts on this topic i work at a Nissan dealer in canada and have read all of your comments pertaining to this you make a great point. I see the same things you do. Flat rate has to be done with. The other day I watched a rookie tech (licensed mind you) ask how to hook a fuel pressure gauge up? REALLY!!!! This clown makes the same wages I do? He brings home the a bigger pay cheque because he avoids the diagnostic, warranty, electrical, trim, RO’s. But he’ll be first up for work when there is a Maint. or brake job coming through the drive thru. The kids coming into this trade have to understand who they work with. When they screw the older (not calling myself old really but I do have the highest seniority)techs those tech aren’t going to help them when they run into problems. I actually laugh when I watch them scratching their heads at a simple problem that I have figured out previously numerous times, yet i will never speak up, I have actually steered them in the wrong direction just for the sheer enjoyment for myself and other more senior techs.
/quote]All I can say is WOW
Like I said before I found at a dealership there was a lot of cut throat going on NO ONE WANTED to WORK together IT was I know how to fix this BUT I WILL NOT SHARE HOW TO DO. IT
At a fleet you DID NOT SEE THIS every one helped each other out
AND YES I AM A SENIOR TECH and I just cant see playing these baby games
My guess this is WHAT you get with this stupid flat rate system. Every one fighting for hours> This pay system NEEDS be done away with .ITs giving good techs a bad nameMY god I an SO happy I am NOT in it any more I just work on my own cars now Have not retested my ASE master tech have and just let it go (just don’t care anymore)
I am retired NOW and all I want to do is to work on the old stuff as a hobby
You can see the frustration of many good techs. There are a lot of hacks in the repair world today .
The sad part is I really do not see it getting any better soon.
But I have to agree !100 % with Eric getting all worked up with it WILL put you in an early grave
Just like my friend he walked away got a try,axle dump tuck and today is happy as Hell
The sad part is it going to take lot of hacks doing poor work on peoples cars before the industry wakes up and make changes
There is NOTHING Me or you can do to fix this IT just has to run its corse
What Here every day is IT USED TO BE FUN BUT its NOT anymore
BUT you know I really think its that way with every one right down to the cop on the beat to the school teacher , iTS NOT FUN ANY MOREMY god I an SO happy I am NOT in it any more I just work on my own cars now Have not retested my ASE master tech have and just let it go (just don’t care anymore)
I am retired NOW and all I want to do is to work on the old stuff as a hobby
You can see the frustration of many good techs. There are a lot of hacks in the repair world today .
The sad part is I really do not see it getting any better soon.
But I have to agree !100 % with Eric getting all worked up with it WILL put you in an early grave
Just like my friend he walked away got a try,axle dump tuck and today is happy as Hell
The sad part is it going to take lot of hacks doing poor work on peoples cars before the industry wakes up and make changes
There is NOTHING Me or you can do to fix this IT just has to run its corse
What Here every day is IT USED TO BE FUN BUT its NOT anymore
BUT you know I really think its that way with every one right down to the cop on the beat to the school teacher , iTS NOT FUN ANY MOREEric you are right on with Diesel and working for a fleet. Companies like Fedx, UPS or your local utility company
all have large fleets. I think today FedX would be a good choose. The hours sometimes might be long but HEY its over time and in the end of the day you will make out better than at a dealership working flat rate thats for sure
I worked at DHL for 18 years and my very first week there I made more money then all the time I Spent at the chevy dealership plus the benefits were WAY better. Hell I averaged 6 weeks paid vacation year
I would have NEVER got that at a dealership
One of the things I hated at the dealership was the cutthroat between the mechanics and the service writer At my fleet job every one helped each other and got along well.Trust me it makes for a much better work environment
Today when I go pass a dealership and see all the techs out in the shop I kind of real sorry for them.Eric you are right on with Diesel and working for a fleet. Companies like Fedx, UPS or your local utility company
all have large fleets. I think today FedX would be a good choose. The hours sometimes might be long but HEY its over time and in the end of the day you will make out better than at a dealership working flat rate thats for sure
I worked at DHL for 18 years and my very first week there I made more money then all the time I Spent at the chevy dealership plus the benefits were WAY better. Hell I averaged 6 weeks paid vacation year
I would have NEVER got that at a dealership
One of the things I hated at the dealership was the cutthroat between the mechanics and the service writer At my fleet job every one helped each other and got along well.Trust me it makes for a much better work environment
Today when I go pass a dealership and see all the techs out in the shop I kind of real sorry for them.[quote]
Wow..This is all very discouraging… I just registered for the automotive program at a local college. Someone tell me it’s at least better than 10-12 dollars an hour full time doing order picking in a warehouse (what i’ve been doing)… The warehouse job was only about $23,000 annual, I would have to make more than that in the auto industry right??/quote]you might make more money BUT do not get your hopes up to high That warehouse job is a lot less aggravation
plus you dont not have a arm and a leg worth of tools in a warehouse job
every day I talk some one out of becoming a tech
two years ago a friend of mine and a very good tech got fred up and walked way The next thing I know he bough a try-axle dump truck and is making 900 a DAY just driving the truck At first I did believe it but he showed me the paper work.
Today he is very happy with his decision and would NEVER go back working at a dealership[quote]
Wow..This is all very discouraging… I just registered for the automotive program at a local college. Someone tell me it’s at least better than 10-12 dollars an hour full time doing order picking in a warehouse (what i’ve been doing)… The warehouse job was only about $23,000 annual, I would have to make more than that in the auto industry right??/quote]you might make more money BUT do not get your hopes up to high That warehouse job is a lot less aggravation
plus you dont not have a arm and a leg worth of tools in a warehouse job
every day I talk some one out of becoming a tech
two years ago a friend of mine and a very good tech got fred up and walked way The next thing I know he bough a try-axle dump truck and is making 900 a DAY just driving the truck At first I did believe it but he showed me the paper work.
Today he is very happy with his decision and would NEVER go back working at a dealershipIt WILL never change most good techs get burned out and walk away leaving the knuckle heads it their place
It been that way for years and I do not see
It changeling any time
So how to
Fix it big business will never change
Flat rate to me is the number One problem that I don’t see going away
it will be the same old thing 30 years form now Why bang your head against a wall
It will never change