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  • in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #519006
    FrankFrank
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      I put the oil in a coca cola bottle now. A bit more visible how it looks. It is metallic in color and have small metal particles. I took it to the workshop that did the check on the rear axle last summer, and the guy I spoke with had never seen that black oil come out of a differential. Especially since it is driven for a relatively short time. He thought that probably one (or more) of the bearings must be broken.

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      in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #516778
      FrankFrank
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        I put the oil in a coca cola bottle now. A bit more visible how it looks. It is metallic in color and have small metal particles. I took it to the workshop that did the check on the rear axle last summer, and the guy I spoke with had never seen that black oil come out of a differential. Especially since it is driven for a relatively short time. He thought that probably one (or more) of the bearings must be broken.

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        in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #518865
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          I opened up the cover for the differential yesterday. The oil I drained off were really discolored (dark grey) and were metallic. The magnet in the drain plug also had a lot of debris. The slack seem to come from the four small gears, one I know also thought they looked worn.

          Here are some pictures:

          The oil I drained off. Note that the oil is right under 6 months old and only driven about 5000km (~3000 miles).

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          Here are some pictures from the cover. The damage I believe is old, when the differential were welded. Can’t see that wear on the gears.

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          And the rest:

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          I also filmed while turning the mechanism. Not that the scraping sound is the brakes, the knocking sound is coming from the differential.

          [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKDXRMZbxKY[/video]

          in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #516619
          FrankFrank
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            I opened up the cover for the differential yesterday. The oil I drained off were really discolored (dark grey) and were metallic. The magnet in the drain plug also had a lot of debris. The slack seem to come from the four small gears, one I know also thought they looked worn.

            Here are some pictures:

            The oil I drained off. Note that the oil is right under 6 months old and only driven about 5000km (~3000 miles).

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            Here are some pictures from the cover. The damage I believe is old, when the differential were welded. Can’t see that wear on the gears.

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            And the rest:

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            I also filmed while turning the mechanism. Not that the scraping sound is the brakes, the knocking sound is coming from the differential.

            [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKDXRMZbxKY[/video]

            in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #513240
            FrankFrank
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              Replaced the front suspension yesterday. Didn’t help much really, got less shaking/vibration in the steering wheel now since the slack is gone, but can still feel some vibration. I also still have the same vibration that i feel in the chair. The positive thing is that the suspension is now ten times better than it was. :cheer:

              I did however discover something that I haven’t been aware of earlier. When engaging to drive forward or backwards, I can sometimes hear a small knock/clunk sound in the back. I’m not sure if this is normal or not in rear wheel driven cars, maybe this should be looked further into as a possible vibration source?

              Regarding the front suspension, I also found that the caliper on the left side were hard to get off. Kind of stuck to the brake disc. I would assume it is sticking a little bit, then I guess this cause some steering wheel shaking/vibration too? What I feel in the steering wheel do however seem to follow the other vibration felt in the chair, so I’m not sure if that is the cause.

              in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #515328
              FrankFrank
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                Replaced the front suspension yesterday. Didn’t help much really, got less shaking/vibration in the steering wheel now since the slack is gone, but can still feel some vibration. I also still have the same vibration that i feel in the chair. The positive thing is that the suspension is now ten times better than it was. :cheer:

                I did however discover something that I haven’t been aware of earlier. When engaging to drive forward or backwards, I can sometimes hear a small knock/clunk sound in the back. I’m not sure if this is normal or not in rear wheel driven cars, maybe this should be looked further into as a possible vibration source?

                Regarding the front suspension, I also found that the caliper on the left side were hard to get off. Kind of stuck to the brake disc. I would assume it is sticking a little bit, then I guess this cause some steering wheel shaking/vibration too? What I feel in the steering wheel do however seem to follow the other vibration felt in the chair, so I’m not sure if that is the cause.

                in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #512892
                FrankFrank
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                  I were supposed to get my valve clearances adjusted today, but got a phone call from the workshop that they could not do the job since they lack the necessary tools. So I went instead to a tire dealer to get my wheels balanced. The prices had doubled since the last time I were there, so balancing all four wheels cost me 700 NOK or about $120 USD. Sadly this did not help at all. Hopefully I’ll get some improvement tomorrow when replacing the front suspension. I’ll give a update tomorrow when I’m done.

                  in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #515015
                  FrankFrank
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                    I were supposed to get my valve clearances adjusted today, but got a phone call from the workshop that they could not do the job since they lack the necessary tools. So I went instead to a tire dealer to get my wheels balanced. The prices had doubled since the last time I were there, so balancing all four wheels cost me 700 NOK or about $120 USD. Sadly this did not help at all. Hopefully I’ll get some improvement tomorrow when replacing the front suspension. I’ll give a update tomorrow when I’m done.

                    in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #512734
                    FrankFrank
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                      It is a long shot, but since there is a little bit vibration in the steering wheel I’m going to give it a try. The vibration in the steering wheel appear at the same time as when I feel the vibrations in the chair. If it doesn’t help I’m going to get the tires checked for balancing issues again. If not, I’ll just have to start in the rear axle and work my way forward again I guess.

                      in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #514834
                      FrankFrank
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                        It is a long shot, but since there is a little bit vibration in the steering wheel I’m going to give it a try. The vibration in the steering wheel appear at the same time as when I feel the vibrations in the chair. If it doesn’t help I’m going to get the tires checked for balancing issues again. If not, I’ll just have to start in the rear axle and work my way forward again I guess.

                        in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #512536
                        FrankFrank
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                          I changed from studded winter tires to my summer tires (different rims for each set), and it seemed to be a slight improvement. I still feel some vibrations between 60 and 80 km/h, I also feel a slight vibration in the steering wheel (which I’ve been doing all along).

                          After some further inspections I found that at least one of my front struts are bad. Slack in the top bearings and feel a bit too soft. Maybe this could cause some minor vibrations, so I’ve bought new struts and bearings which I’m going to replace this weekend. I’ve already changed the rear struts.

                          I’m still unsure if it will help. The vibrations seem to become a little bit more intense when I accelerate. When accelerating I can hear a humming sound, almost like a subwoofer. This might be caused by the slight exhaust leak i can hear around the turbo when idling. Most likely the gasket for the exhaust manifold.

                          I’ll update when I’ve changed the struts on Saturday.

                          in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #514645
                          FrankFrank
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                            I changed from studded winter tires to my summer tires (different rims for each set), and it seemed to be a slight improvement. I still feel some vibrations between 60 and 80 km/h, I also feel a slight vibration in the steering wheel (which I’ve been doing all along).

                            After some further inspections I found that at least one of my front struts are bad. Slack in the top bearings and feel a bit too soft. Maybe this could cause some minor vibrations, so I’ve bought new struts and bearings which I’m going to replace this weekend. I’ve already changed the rear struts.

                            I’m still unsure if it will help. The vibrations seem to become a little bit more intense when I accelerate. When accelerating I can hear a humming sound, almost like a subwoofer. This might be caused by the slight exhaust leak i can hear around the turbo when idling. Most likely the gasket for the exhaust manifold.

                            I’ll update when I’ve changed the struts on Saturday.

                            in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #510068
                            FrankFrank
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                              Spoke with the workshop today. Sadly they could not completely fix the issue. I were told the vibration is barely noticeable now, so it is very little. Since I have changed and checked almost everything, it is hard to say where the source is. They literally said they have given up my car, so I’m getting it back before the weekend now.

                              I’ve been thinking and searching the web for a little bit now. Could the flywheel be out of balance or something that could cause slight vibration? The car have after all had a rough life, maybe the flywheel have gotten some beating from the clutch? I would assume the car have been driven sideways since the differential were welded stuck.

                              Could the frame of the car cause slight vibration? If it have had a collision at some point and the frame is slightly misaligned thus putting the drive line/wheels out of alignment?

                              in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #508154
                              FrankFrank
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                                Spoke with the workshop today. Sadly they could not completely fix the issue. I were told the vibration is barely noticeable now, so it is very little. Since I have changed and checked almost everything, it is hard to say where the source is. They literally said they have given up my car, so I’m getting it back before the weekend now.

                                I’ve been thinking and searching the web for a little bit now. Could the flywheel be out of balance or something that could cause slight vibration? The car have after all had a rough life, maybe the flywheel have gotten some beating from the clutch? I would assume the car have been driven sideways since the differential were welded stuck.

                                Could the frame of the car cause slight vibration? If it have had a collision at some point and the frame is slightly misaligned thus putting the drive line/wheels out of alignment?

                                in reply to: ’86 Volvo 740 Turbo, vibration and noise issues #509670
                                FrankFrank
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                                  This is a little off-topic. But I’m curious… How much would a re-balance of the drive shaft cost in the US? Here it would in my case cost about $650 (brand new cost $560) to get my drive shaft re-balanced. I’ve spoken with other people, and the highest cost I’ve heard is about $1700 for a re-balance. There is only one company that does balancing like this in Norway, so shipping costs are not included, but would be about $43 I think.

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