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Hey Guys,
Due to the holidays i’m a bit late with my response. I got all the parts and went ahead with the repair. I cleaned the sparkplughole and replaced the gasket. Torqued evreything down to speck and replaced the coilpack on cylinder nr 1. Took the car for a testdrive and it felt smoother then before. So i guess this is a succesfull job. I will do some more driving to see if anything comes up but i’m feeling confident that it will be fine now 🙂
Thanks for all the advice
A good 2013 for everybody here 🙂
Greetz
Jeroen
Just stopped at the toyota dealership and picked up the gasket. The second hand coils are also on their way. Tomorrow i will install the gasket. That way i will only have to put in the replacement coil when it arrives and test-drive it 🙂
Just a question still about putting the spark-plugs back in. I have a 16mm socket which i used to get them out but it seems the spark-plug sits quite tight into the rubber inside the socket so when i want to reinstall them the socket is releasing from my wrench-extension rather then from the spark-plug. At that point the socket is to deep into the tight spark-plughole to get it out with for example some pliers. Any tips on this? I already saw there are some longer pipe-wrenches which could be used but they don’t allow to use a torgue-wrench with them. I’ll check at my local auto-parts-store tomorrow if they have anything useful. But if someone has a good tip… that’s always appreciated.
Just stopped at the toyota dealership and picked up the gasket. The second hand coils are also on their way. Tomorrow i will install the gasket. That way i will only have to put in the replacement coil when it arrives and test-drive it 🙂
Just a question still about putting the spark-plugs back in. I have a 16mm socket which i used to get them out but it seems the spark-plug sits quite tight into the rubber inside the socket so when i want to reinstall them the socket is releasing from my wrench-extension rather then from the spark-plug. At that point the socket is to deep into the tight spark-plughole to get it out with for example some pliers. Any tips on this? I already saw there are some longer pipe-wrenches which could be used but they don’t allow to use a torgue-wrench with them. I’ll check at my local auto-parts-store tomorrow if they have anything useful. But if someone has a good tip… that’s always appreciated.
Current status:
ordered a new gasket at the toyota dealership
ordered 2 coils second hand from the same model corolla (with roughly the same mileage)Once they come in i’ll get back with you guys with hopefully teh final result 🙂
Current status:
ordered a new gasket at the toyota dealership
ordered 2 coils second hand from the same model corolla (with roughly the same mileage)Once they come in i’ll get back with you guys with hopefully teh final result 🙂
Hi,
I also pulled the sparkplugs and took a picture. The one in the socket is from the second cylinder from the left (the good one so to say) the other one is from the problem-cylinder. Looking at the plugs and checking some pictures of spark-plug-problems on the web there doesn’t seem to be oil on the sparkplugs… Or am i mistaken? (both plugs where dry) The problem-ons just looked a bit more used.
I also felt into the spark plug well and it was not oily. It was dry and had some black dusty powder on the sides. Would it be safe to say that the gasket would be fine? (i could remove the cover and check the state of the gasket. I have a haynes manual which describes the procedure. It seems doable.)
Also i went to the parts store and to a toyota dealer. A new ignition coil from denso would be 230 euro excluding taxes and a aftermarket one from the parts store would be 100 euro excluding taxes. Does anybody have any experience with aftermarket vs brand-parts for these parts? I hardly do any miles with this car. (i’ll probably end up doing 3000km this year with it) So i’m not sure if the denso one would be worth the money. Although i am convinced you should stick to brand-parts for the best results in most cases.
@college man: just to be clear: by “Replace the cop” you mean the ignition coil?
Thanks in advance
Greetz
Perre
Hi,
I also pulled the sparkplugs and took a picture. The one in the socket is from the second cylinder from the left (the good one so to say) the other one is from the problem-cylinder. Looking at the plugs and checking some pictures of spark-plug-problems on the web there doesn’t seem to be oil on the sparkplugs… Or am i mistaken? (both plugs where dry) The problem-ons just looked a bit more used.
I also felt into the spark plug well and it was not oily. It was dry and had some black dusty powder on the sides. Would it be safe to say that the gasket would be fine? (i could remove the cover and check the state of the gasket. I have a haynes manual which describes the procedure. It seems doable.)
Also i went to the parts store and to a toyota dealer. A new ignition coil from denso would be 230 euro excluding taxes and a aftermarket one from the parts store would be 100 euro excluding taxes. Does anybody have any experience with aftermarket vs brand-parts for these parts? I hardly do any miles with this car. (i’ll probably end up doing 3000km this year with it) So i’m not sure if the denso one would be worth the money. Although i am convinced you should stick to brand-parts for the best results in most cases.
@college man: just to be clear: by “Replace the cop” you mean the ignition coil?
Thanks in advance
Greetz
Perre
Ok i got round to checking some stuff:)
I removed the engine-cover and unplugged the cables/harness that goes to the sparkplugs. I then pulled the ignition coils that connect to the sparkplugs and found something interesting right away. The left most coil had a large rupture in the lower rubber boot which fits over the sparkplug. The sparkplug-hole was also showing some rust while the other 3 holes were looking as new. I got some pictures but the uploading feature of the forum seems to be out for a few days… (i’ll post them asap) But the main question now is will replacing the rubber boot/whole ignition coil be sufficient? (because i would presume this problem wasn’t there when they changed the sparkplugs at the dealership… they didn’t mentioned anything about this anyway) So i would think there might be another problem that is really the root cause of all this…
Any idea’s on this? (sparkplug not properly tightened? gasket-failure around that cylinder? something else…)
Thanks in advance
Perre
Ok i got round to checking some stuff:)
I removed the engine-cover and unplugged the cables/harness that goes to the sparkplugs. I then pulled the ignition coils that connect to the sparkplugs and found something interesting right away. The left most coil had a large rupture in the lower rubber boot which fits over the sparkplug. The sparkplug-hole was also showing some rust while the other 3 holes were looking as new. I got some pictures but the uploading feature of the forum seems to be out for a few days… (i’ll post them asap) But the main question now is will replacing the rubber boot/whole ignition coil be sufficient? (because i would presume this problem wasn’t there when they changed the sparkplugs at the dealership… they didn’t mentioned anything about this anyway) So i would think there might be another problem that is really the root cause of all this…
Any idea’s on this? (sparkplug not properly tightened? gasket-failure around that cylinder? something else…)
Thanks in advance
Perre
[quote=”Nogood” post=41777]Until someone else pitches in, I’ll give it a try.
Another very simple suggestion is that you tracked a good bunch of snow in the car which melted and is in your carpets now. Try heating the car up a lot on the next 3-4 trips and finish off by leaving it running with heat on and all doors open. As warm air carries more moisture you can get the water off you panels and vacate it by airing out the car a few times. This is a common problem with cars with tight good seals all around which won’t allow anything in or out.
Good luck[/quote]
If you have AC you can also just turn that on. It will help drying the air in the interior a lot also.
[quote=”Nogood” post=41777]Until someone else pitches in, I’ll give it a try.
Another very simple suggestion is that you tracked a good bunch of snow in the car which melted and is in your carpets now. Try heating the car up a lot on the next 3-4 trips and finish off by leaving it running with heat on and all doors open. As warm air carries more moisture you can get the water off you panels and vacate it by airing out the car a few times. This is a common problem with cars with tight good seals all around which won’t allow anything in or out.
Good luck[/quote]
If you have AC you can also just turn that on. It will help drying the air in the interior a lot also.
Hi there,
I once had a problem in my 2002 accord that the carpet on the driver side was very damp and had some water sitting in a puddle right where i would place my feet. I took it to a honda garage and they found out that the draining-tube from the sunroof got “misplaced” from its position and instead of channelling the water to the outside of the vehicle it found its way into the interior. Reading your description i’m not quite sure that you have this problem but if you have a sunroof it might be worthwhile to check . Close the sunroof and car 😉 and spray with a garden-hose a good amount of water on the sun roof. If the interior is getting wetter this might clue you in to where you want to look. In case of my accord the draining-hose ran from the sunroof to the driver-door next to the wind-shield and down into a opening in the car-body somewhere next to the door-hinges (or there about). (the tube got dislodged from this opening in my case) Maybe Eric or some other member can describe this a bit clearer or supply a photo from a service manual. (i dont have this car anymore 🙁 otherwise i could send a picture)
Greetings
Jeroen
Hi there,
I once had a problem in my 2002 accord that the carpet on the driver side was very damp and had some water sitting in a puddle right where i would place my feet. I took it to a honda garage and they found out that the draining-tube from the sunroof got “misplaced” from its position and instead of channelling the water to the outside of the vehicle it found its way into the interior. Reading your description i’m not quite sure that you have this problem but if you have a sunroof it might be worthwhile to check . Close the sunroof and car 😉 and spray with a garden-hose a good amount of water on the sun roof. If the interior is getting wetter this might clue you in to where you want to look. In case of my accord the draining-hose ran from the sunroof to the driver-door next to the wind-shield and down into a opening in the car-body somewhere next to the door-hinges (or there about). (the tube got dislodged from this opening in my case) Maybe Eric or some other member can describe this a bit clearer or supply a photo from a service manual. (i dont have this car anymore 🙁 otherwise i could send a picture)
Greetings
Jeroen
