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  • in reply to: 2003 Accord Rattle when Starting/Shutting engine. #635031
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      [quote=”wysetech” post=114055]It sounds to me like something metal is touching the body or sub frame. When starting and shutting down the engine normally vibrates. Could even be the exhaust system touching the floor etc. under the car. It could well be the engine or transmission mounts.

      Maybe get a helper to start and shut down while you inspect under the car.[/quote]

      It vibrates waaaaay too much like the car is shaking… I’m now thinking twords transmission. Probably some rotational part is out of ballance or something similar to that…
      Also, I honestly don’t know where transmission mounts are located, probably should check them as well. The engine mounts are in good shape though. Exhaust seems ok too.
      As I said, I certainly should first deal with the trany. It might exactly be the sourse of noise problem. 🙂

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        [quote=”wysetech” post=114055]It sounds to me like something metal is touching the body or sub frame. When starting and shutting down the engine normally vibrates. Could even be the exhaust system touching the floor etc. under the car. It could well be the engine or transmission mounts.

        Maybe get a helper to start and shut down while you inspect under the car.[/quote]

        It vibrates waaaaay too much like the car is shaking… I’m now thinking twords transmission. Probably some rotational part is out of ballance or something similar to that…
        Also, I honestly don’t know where transmission mounts are located, probably should check them as well. The engine mounts are in good shape though. Exhaust seems ok too.
        As I said, I certainly should first deal with the trany. It might exactly be the sourse of noise problem. 🙂

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          Also I’m thinking about replacing the trany mounts at the same time just to make sure that everything nice and tight. What’s your advice about that?

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            Also I’m thinking about replacing the trany mounts at the same time just to make sure that everything nice and tight. What’s your advice about that?

            in reply to: 2003 Accord Rattle when Starting/Shutting engine. #635006
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              [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=113964]Those transmissions have known issues and have been prone to fail even after a rebuild. I wrote about it extensively in the article I linked for you. It would be very difficult to prove that it was their installation that caused the problem. That said, the transmission may be the cause of your noise and vibration. If you have a bad transmission it can cause those problems.[/quote]
              You’re probably right about trasmission being the cause of this noise. I don’t think I had it before the trany went bad + I checked the heat shields and it doesn’t seem to be the problem. I guess I will be just saving money for the trany and after it gets fixed I will see if the noise went away. One friend of mine knows people from “Cincinnati Transmission”, they can put a new(used) one in for $1900 + 50k miles 3 year warranty. It looks like an amazing deal compare to $3700 and 1 year warranty which I got last time…

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                [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=113964]Those transmissions have known issues and have been prone to fail even after a rebuild. I wrote about it extensively in the article I linked for you. It would be very difficult to prove that it was their installation that caused the problem. That said, the transmission may be the cause of your noise and vibration. If you have a bad transmission it can cause those problems.[/quote]
                You’re probably right about trasmission being the cause of this noise. I don’t think I had it before the trany went bad + I checked the heat shields and it doesn’t seem to be the problem. I guess I will be just saving money for the trany and after it gets fixed I will see if the noise went away. One friend of mine knows people from “Cincinnati Transmission”, they can put a new(used) one in for $1900 + 50k miles 3 year warranty. It looks like an amazing deal compare to $3700 and 1 year warranty which I got last time…

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                  [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=113745]I couldn’t really hear anything in the video. Based on your description I’d be checking the heat shielding on the exhaust.

                  As for the other issues, including the power steering, it may have something to do with the transmission installation. That also goes for the pic you posted of the mount.

                  That said, those years were notorious for problems with transmissions. I’ve written about it here.

                  http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-transmission-problems

                  Good luck and keep us posted on what you find.[/quote]

                  Thanks for the reply Eric!
                  I just watched that video on heat shielding rattles yesterday 😆 I will be checking it tomorrow for sure!

                  True, my video doesn’t really catch all those noises. But, let me explain it more clearly.
                  When I start/shut down the engine very first time on the video, that’s when you should be able to hear it the best! Only when it ignites, the noise occuring in unison with the engine and when I shut it down, the noise comes right after. It’s like something wiggling or wobbling or shaking and hitting something else in the process. Also, the car vibrates really hard at the same time. English isn’t my first language, so I can’t explain it better :(. Maybe that noise isn’t “rattle” at all, and you deffinetly know better what to call it as a native English speaker 😉 But, you should 100% be able to hear that noise when I start/shut down very first time.

                  I bought this car 2 years ago for almost $9000 with 105k miles on it. Probably the dealer was selebrating this event not less than a week :lol:. After a first year of driving in addition to many revealed problems, my first trany died. (After that I desided to educate my self about cars and become DIYer.)
                  I discovered that the new(used) transmission together with the rack were installed at the same time by the same people and now both are causing problems although I didn’t even have the rack problems back then. So after the current trany got toasted about a week ago, I went to their shop and asked them what the heck? They said that the warranty for the tranny expired 2 month ago, so I could’t get them to fix anything for free. So is there any way of prooving that they did a bad job and at least get a trany rebuild? I suspect that they didn’t even use OEM Honda fluids when did the repair in the first place… :angry: In my understanding the parts like rack (not even mentioning trany) shouldn’t be braking after 12.5k miles :angry:

                  P.S. Thanks for what you do Eric, I learn a lot from you! Keep it up! banana:

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                    [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=113745]I couldn’t really hear anything in the video. Based on your description I’d be checking the heat shielding on the exhaust.

                    As for the other issues, including the power steering, it may have something to do with the transmission installation. That also goes for the pic you posted of the mount.

                    That said, those years were notorious for problems with transmissions. I’ve written about it here.

                    http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-transmission-problems

                    Good luck and keep us posted on what you find.[/quote]

                    Thanks for the reply Eric!
                    I just watched that video on heat shielding rattles yesterday 😆 I will be checking it tomorrow for sure!

                    True, my video doesn’t really catch all those noises. But, let me explain it more clearly.
                    When I start/shut down the engine very first time on the video, that’s when you should be able to hear it the best! Only when it ignites, the noise occuring in unison with the engine and when I shut it down, the noise comes right after. It’s like something wiggling or wobbling or shaking and hitting something else in the process. Also, the car vibrates really hard at the same time. English isn’t my first language, so I can’t explain it better :(. Maybe that noise isn’t “rattle” at all, and you deffinetly know better what to call it as a native English speaker 😉 But, you should 100% be able to hear that noise when I start/shut down very first time.

                    I bought this car 2 years ago for almost $9000 with 105k miles on it. Probably the dealer was selebrating this event not less than a week :lol:. After a first year of driving in addition to many revealed problems, my first trany died. (After that I desided to educate my self about cars and become DIYer.)
                    I discovered that the new(used) transmission together with the rack were installed at the same time by the same people and now both are causing problems although I didn’t even have the rack problems back then. So after the current trany got toasted about a week ago, I went to their shop and asked them what the heck? They said that the warranty for the tranny expired 2 month ago, so I could’t get them to fix anything for free. So is there any way of prooving that they did a bad job and at least get a trany rebuild? I suspect that they didn’t even use OEM Honda fluids when did the repair in the first place… :angry: In my understanding the parts like rack (not even mentioning trany) shouldn’t be braking after 12.5k miles :angry:

                    P.S. Thanks for what you do Eric, I learn a lot from you! Keep it up! banana:

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                      OMG I JUST CLOSED THE TAB WITH WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO POST :angry: :angry: :angry:

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                        OMG I JUST CLOSED THE TAB WITH WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO POST :angry: :angry: :angry:

                        in reply to: 2003 Accord Rattle when Starting/Shutting engine. #634449
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                          [quote=”college man” post=113723]here are two links for help.

                          http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/diagnosing-noises-in-your-car

                          http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/determining-the-causes-of-vehicle-vibrations%5B/quote%5D
                          Thanks college man, but I already went through all those sections. 🙂

                          in reply to: 2003 Accord Rattle when Starting/Shutting engine. #624392
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                            [quote=”college man” post=113723]here are two links for help.

                            http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/diagnosing-noises-in-your-car

                            http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/determining-the-causes-of-vehicle-vibrations%5B/quote%5D
                            Thanks college man, but I already went through all those sections. 🙂

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