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  • in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #629469
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      I have steady fuel pressure 36lbs.( the service manual specs.@30-45)

      I guess I should mention it has COP ignition system, I didn’t realize that there were more than one type.

      I read that the crank sensor sends info to the PCM which in turn sends signal to coils and to injectors. Is that correct?

      I gapped the plugs though I have seen a couple of your videos where you tell that it is unnecessary most of the time and the story of dropping the plug in the hole and damaging it, so I tried not to do that, thanks. They varied from .042 to .054

      I will order the tester, where would I find the actual desired output of the coil if I wanted to know?

      will my service manual have spec voltage for the coil connectors on the harness? It is PDF and I haven’t quite mastered navigating yet

      I have recently checked out a couple of the FATR episodes, I enjoyed , will be checking out more in the future….You have a pretty cool gig!!

      in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #640283
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        I have steady fuel pressure 36lbs.( the service manual specs.@30-45)

        I guess I should mention it has COP ignition system, I didn’t realize that there were more than one type.

        I read that the crank sensor sends info to the PCM which in turn sends signal to coils and to injectors. Is that correct?

        I gapped the plugs though I have seen a couple of your videos where you tell that it is unnecessary most of the time and the story of dropping the plug in the hole and damaging it, so I tried not to do that, thanks. They varied from .042 to .054

        I will order the tester, where would I find the actual desired output of the coil if I wanted to know?

        will my service manual have spec voltage for the coil connectors on the harness? It is PDF and I haven’t quite mastered navigating yet

        I have recently checked out a couple of the FATR episodes, I enjoyed , will be checking out more in the future….You have a pretty cool gig!!

        in reply to: water in the floorboard #629443
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          I am not certain, been staying dirty, haven’t had time will be driving that car Monday will keep you posted.

          in reply to: water in the floorboard #640240
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            I am not certain, been staying dirty, haven’t had time will be driving that car Monday will keep you posted.

            in reply to: water in the floorboard #629191
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              so I was finally able to try this, I was eagerly anticipating the water works that I saw on the video as confirmation of a clogged drainage hose, no such luck. I used air first, then the water hose I was able to find a leak coming from behind a rubber “gasket” at the firewall.

              in reply to: water in the floorboard #640013
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                so I was finally able to try this, I was eagerly anticipating the water works that I saw on the video as confirmation of a clogged drainage hose, no such luck. I used air first, then the water hose I was able to find a leak coming from behind a rubber “gasket” at the firewall.

                in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #629003
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                  So I have removed the plugs which are very black on the spark end, especially on the right cylinder bank ( how do you determine right and left, looking at the car or like you are sitting in the drivers seat?)

                  Found 3 bare spots on the ignition harness 1 on cylinder 5 and to on cylinder 7. I cleaned and insulated with high voltage silicone tape.

                  I checked each of the coils for spark, some seemed weaker than others so to eliminate variables I took one coil that I considered to be strong and interchanged it within the harness.
                  Result: I have the ability to deliver spark to the plugs at every cylinder.

                  Tomorrow I will check each of the coils to determine if any fail to deliver a strong spark.

                  I shouldn’t/can’t determine voltage at the end of the coil?

                  in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #639806
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                    So I have removed the plugs which are very black on the spark end, especially on the right cylinder bank ( how do you determine right and left, looking at the car or like you are sitting in the drivers seat?)

                    Found 3 bare spots on the ignition harness 1 on cylinder 5 and to on cylinder 7. I cleaned and insulated with high voltage silicone tape.

                    I checked each of the coils for spark, some seemed weaker than others so to eliminate variables I took one coil that I considered to be strong and interchanged it within the harness.
                    Result: I have the ability to deliver spark to the plugs at every cylinder.

                    Tomorrow I will check each of the coils to determine if any fail to deliver a strong spark.

                    I shouldn’t/can’t determine voltage at the end of the coil?

                    in reply to: Transmission making speedometer bounce to 20mph #628631
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                      Ok, I thought I couldn’t afford a live data scanner at this time, I attribute that to lack of confidence in my abilities as a mechanic.

                      So I opted for the professional mechanic, it was in fact a speed sensor issue and a broken front motor mount total cost $485, being able to transport: worth it

                      Just wanted to let everyone know Eric’s diagnosis was absolutely correct.

                      Thank you

                      in reply to: Transmission making speedometer bounce to 20mph #639390
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                        Ok, I thought I couldn’t afford a live data scanner at this time, I attribute that to lack of confidence in my abilities as a mechanic.

                        So I opted for the professional mechanic, it was in fact a speed sensor issue and a broken front motor mount total cost $485, being able to transport: worth it

                        Just wanted to let everyone know Eric’s diagnosis was absolutely correct.

                        Thank you

                        in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #628382
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                          ok, so the vacuum lines are all the of the smaller lines right?
                          1.one goes to the fuel rail canister,2.one goes to the egr,3&4.two go to a plastic component that fastens to the side of the of the upper intake, 5.one goes to something in front of the steering wheel,6.these are all small colored hoses,7.then there are three black hoses 3/8″ o.d., 8.one goes to the front of the intake on the manifold on one side,9.one on the other side and one to the brake booster

                          does that sound right?

                          in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #639021
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                            ok, so the vacuum lines are all the of the smaller lines right?
                            1.one goes to the fuel rail canister,2.one goes to the egr,3&4.two go to a plastic component that fastens to the side of the of the upper intake, 5.one goes to something in front of the steering wheel,6.these are all small colored hoses,7.then there are three black hoses 3/8″ o.d., 8.one goes to the front of the intake on the manifold on one side,9.one on the other side and one to the brake booster

                            does that sound right?

                            in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #628302
                            ShadShad
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                              how can I find out which plugs have the coils,all of the coil packs look the same

                              I did not torque either of the manifolds, I did replace the gaskets, and I did torque the head bolts

                              Can oil get in the fuel, the reason I ask is when I changed the fuel filter after the clear gas drained out the rest of the stuff was dark, I don’t know how long it had been on thre

                              in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #638922
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                                how can I find out which plugs have the coils,all of the coil packs look the same

                                I did not torque either of the manifolds, I did replace the gaskets, and I did torque the head bolts

                                Can oil get in the fuel, the reason I ask is when I changed the fuel filter after the clear gas drained out the rest of the stuff was dark, I don’t know how long it had been on thre

                                in reply to: Running great then dies(03 Navig. continued) #628248
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                                  Ok I received my service manual today.

                                  My fuel pressure is within tolerance.

                                  THE ENGINE SEEMS TO RUN PERFECTLY WHEN I CAN GET IT STARTED

                                  Let’s do it again, new plan of attack

                                  I will first drain the gas, put fresh, check the plugs and coils this vehicle does not have a distributor…but I don’t know if that means there is no ignition coil( I am a rookie)

                                  this time I guess I will check the injectors, U do this by listening to them?

                                  And my inertia switch, which if I understand it correctly when it is released it applies pressure to the contact to open the circuit, it then has a reset button which is spring loaded and allows the switch to recoil allowing for the circuit to close is that correct?

                                  I do have an exhaust gasket that is missing but I have the manifold mated to the block incase that might have something to do with the no start.

                                  I feel like I am sooo close but I am failing to do something small

                                  Also a friend of mine told me a story of a truck that had a sensor that was bad and wouldn’t let it run, what kind of sensor would that be?

                                  Thanks for any help, you might be able to give

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