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[quote=”nickwarner” post=56234]I would disagree with that. That’s an excuse some managers like to use as a way to justify treating employees like crap and holding them back from their true potential. The truth is that auto repair has a lot of openings for skilled technicians. So many are leaving the field and too many younger people these days absolutely refuse to do anything that isn’t an app on an iphone. They will not physically exert themselves or take a chance at getting dirty. Cars are costing more and get more complicated every year, as do the regulations about them instituted by our government at federal, state and local levels. A motivated technician who does quality work can and does have options.
Never settle for a place that holds you back or mistreats you. Do not allow an employer to starve you out. That is doing yourself an injustice. On the flip side of that coin, you need to be worth it. You need to be constantly striving to get better at what you do. Take pride in your work and verify your diagnosis. If you want to command premium pay, you need to be a premium tech doing premium work. This requires an investment in continued training and in your tools.[/quote]
i had been at a dealership that i had been telling myself to stay and settle but, their attitude is really moving toward “i can find same quality tech on the street or even better train someone from detail shop into mechanics…ahahhaha”
that might be when everything was old school, points and condensers, old carbs…they are really applicable to understand fuel injection and ignition but, these days unless you have drive , you can’t keep going…at least in my opinion…it’s better to keep trying to get better and go to better place..
what a nice trade most of days…unless you end up with everyone’s disaster.[quote=”nickwarner” post=56234]I would disagree with that. That’s an excuse some managers like to use as a way to justify treating employees like crap and holding them back from their true potential. The truth is that auto repair has a lot of openings for skilled technicians. So many are leaving the field and too many younger people these days absolutely refuse to do anything that isn’t an app on an iphone. They will not physically exert themselves or take a chance at getting dirty. Cars are costing more and get more complicated every year, as do the regulations about them instituted by our government at federal, state and local levels. A motivated technician who does quality work can and does have options.
Never settle for a place that holds you back or mistreats you. Do not allow an employer to starve you out. That is doing yourself an injustice. On the flip side of that coin, you need to be worth it. You need to be constantly striving to get better at what you do. Take pride in your work and verify your diagnosis. If you want to command premium pay, you need to be a premium tech doing premium work. This requires an investment in continued training and in your tools.[/quote]
i had been at a dealership that i had been telling myself to stay and settle but, their attitude is really moving toward “i can find same quality tech on the street or even better train someone from detail shop into mechanics…ahahhaha”
that might be when everything was old school, points and condensers, old carbs…they are really applicable to understand fuel injection and ignition but, these days unless you have drive , you can’t keep going…at least in my opinion…it’s better to keep trying to get better and go to better place..
what a nice trade most of days…unless you end up with everyone’s disaster.[quote=”nwtech” post=56062]Being burned out is how i feel, I go to work to a full time and a part time job and do the big jobs engines replacements, trannys, electrical, engine tear down and assembly, have a raging tyrant owner chewing everyone’s ass, company wont purchase necessary shop equipment when i come to them with $20,000 in my own tools and box, tell me how thats fair? Its too late to change careers for me after 6 years of doing it professionally I need to use my tools everyday and get dirty its just a way of life, my advice, get outta the dealership and branch out into something that pays like heavy equipment/diesel, marine, aviation, still the same kinda job, Ive worked on cars, heavy trucks, and boats professionally and i prefer the work as well as the environment, keep learning, collecting tools, and gaining experience, it is still possible to make a decent living and love your job[/quote]
i work at almost similar place but, at dealership situation that they must be using the shop as tax-write off or something…they were suppose to make this shop as only accesory installation and had after thought of making a dealer with no equipment…napa tranny jack that is joke and engine crane and engine stand borrow from gm’s neighbor….what a gong show…
i spent around 30+k on tools and more coming….i just can’t sit around and wait for them to replace me with cheaper labor who can push things through fast without care for quality..
stupid gm and owners just want stupid just push and push…even if they had 15 come back for same person…wouldn’t care less..myself, as a tech, i have to think about schedules, parts, screaming customers…
go wherever to better for each person[quote=”nwtech” post=56062]Being burned out is how i feel, I go to work to a full time and a part time job and do the big jobs engines replacements, trannys, electrical, engine tear down and assembly, have a raging tyrant owner chewing everyone’s ass, company wont purchase necessary shop equipment when i come to them with $20,000 in my own tools and box, tell me how thats fair? Its too late to change careers for me after 6 years of doing it professionally I need to use my tools everyday and get dirty its just a way of life, my advice, get outta the dealership and branch out into something that pays like heavy equipment/diesel, marine, aviation, still the same kinda job, Ive worked on cars, heavy trucks, and boats professionally and i prefer the work as well as the environment, keep learning, collecting tools, and gaining experience, it is still possible to make a decent living and love your job[/quote]
i work at almost similar place but, at dealership situation that they must be using the shop as tax-write off or something…they were suppose to make this shop as only accesory installation and had after thought of making a dealer with no equipment…napa tranny jack that is joke and engine crane and engine stand borrow from gm’s neighbor….what a gong show…
i spent around 30+k on tools and more coming….i just can’t sit around and wait for them to replace me with cheaper labor who can push things through fast without care for quality..
stupid gm and owners just want stupid just push and push…even if they had 15 come back for same person…wouldn’t care less..myself, as a tech, i have to think about schedules, parts, screaming customers…
go wherever to better for each personwhen jerk customer knows what repair require and waste your time…
rusty warranty bucket..some job you win..some you just can’t.
when jerk customer knows what repair require and waste your time…
rusty warranty bucket..some job you win..some you just can’t.
[quote=”chyctech” post=55872]you should try to take some of the ASE tests. i think you would probably do well on the brakes one, or steering and suspension. give it a try. if anything to see if you can pass. at least not you don’t have to wait 4 weeks to find out. good luck.[/quote]
i am from canada, i had to go through apprenticeship and they had enough tests at work and at school.
ase test is not as important here…
even then, not everybody know stuff same.[quote=”chyctech” post=55872]you should try to take some of the ASE tests. i think you would probably do well on the brakes one, or steering and suspension. give it a try. if anything to see if you can pass. at least not you don’t have to wait 4 weeks to find out. good luck.[/quote]
i am from canada, i had to go through apprenticeship and they had enough tests at work and at school.
ase test is not as important here…
even then, not everybody know stuff same.[quote=”jmorgan456″ post=54777]My wife drives a 2008 Subaru Tribeca. It is supposed to take approximately 7 quarts of oil.
It has always burned/lost oil. Today she called at work, the dipstick was bone dry. I came home and checked. The level was 4 Quarts low. She claims it was checked about 3 weeks ago. But I suspect that is not possible. I have always used Amsoil 5w-40 in that car.
I have now put a warning on her phone to remind her to check. Maybe it works. More likely, I am going to have to take over checking – but that WILL cause a fight.
Several questions…
How likely is engine damage? It has been low – but not that low – before.
What should I check? Compression?
I am debating increasing the viscosity – again. (factory specifies 5w-30). Pro/Con?
I am fairly convinced that she is NOT going to check the oil. Is there a way to install an oil level sensor light? I am sure there is, but within reason….[/quote]
your wife is doing tons of short drives around town, right? 4 qts in 3wks? pretty severe burn…or just engine wear and tear…
i had seen that on my subaru customer that they wouldn’t check oil until at the time of oil change that they have 8 oz or less left in the crankcase and wonder why…i guess it’s better…at least she checked it..
make sure it’s not overfill and vehicle is sitting in flat area…is your winter pretty severe? try to put synthetic 5w-30we used to put 10w-30 on some higher mileage…tons of them starved oil due to lack of care and common sense of some people…
p.s. are there any noise from lifters or bottom end of engine?
[quote=”jmorgan456″ post=54777]My wife drives a 2008 Subaru Tribeca. It is supposed to take approximately 7 quarts of oil.
It has always burned/lost oil. Today she called at work, the dipstick was bone dry. I came home and checked. The level was 4 Quarts low. She claims it was checked about 3 weeks ago. But I suspect that is not possible. I have always used Amsoil 5w-40 in that car.
I have now put a warning on her phone to remind her to check. Maybe it works. More likely, I am going to have to take over checking – but that WILL cause a fight.
Several questions…
How likely is engine damage? It has been low – but not that low – before.
What should I check? Compression?
I am debating increasing the viscosity – again. (factory specifies 5w-30). Pro/Con?
I am fairly convinced that she is NOT going to check the oil. Is there a way to install an oil level sensor light? I am sure there is, but within reason….[/quote]
your wife is doing tons of short drives around town, right? 4 qts in 3wks? pretty severe burn…or just engine wear and tear…
i had seen that on my subaru customer that they wouldn’t check oil until at the time of oil change that they have 8 oz or less left in the crankcase and wonder why…i guess it’s better…at least she checked it..
make sure it’s not overfill and vehicle is sitting in flat area…is your winter pretty severe? try to put synthetic 5w-30we used to put 10w-30 on some higher mileage…tons of them starved oil due to lack of care and common sense of some people…
p.s. are there any noise from lifters or bottom end of engine?
[quote=”W00DBar0n” post=55873][quote=”kevk62″ post=55854][quote=”W00DBar0n” post=40690]So I had a bunch of photos sitting in my phone from the first day at the shop over a month ago. I felt like showing you some more of the tools and shop I work in.
The floors in the last picture are steel if you are wondering, why? Its the support side of the shop, the support side work on dozers and other tracked machines, and concrete cant handle that sort of beating.[/quote]
it’s nice to have company out there really take care of their employees….wow.
it sure saves tons of money…it’s just that…once you leave that company you don’t have tools…
are we inmates?[/quote]
Well… if you leave THAT branch you would have to buy your own tools (either then pneumatic tools), but this company (and a lot like us) give out yearly tool allowances to help pay for tools.[/quote]still…i think it’s pretty sweet…
current job will do that tool allowance but, it would be based what we billed out…kind of different…
you wouldn’t have too much control over it…given the fact unless i am printing my time tickets…
my company like to play accounting game by changing numbers and such…[quote=”W00DBar0n” post=55873][quote=”kevk62″ post=55854][quote=”W00DBar0n” post=40690]So I had a bunch of photos sitting in my phone from the first day at the shop over a month ago. I felt like showing you some more of the tools and shop I work in.
The floors in the last picture are steel if you are wondering, why? Its the support side of the shop, the support side work on dozers and other tracked machines, and concrete cant handle that sort of beating.[/quote]
it’s nice to have company out there really take care of their employees….wow.
it sure saves tons of money…it’s just that…once you leave that company you don’t have tools…
are we inmates?[/quote]
Well… if you leave THAT branch you would have to buy your own tools (either then pneumatic tools), but this company (and a lot like us) give out yearly tool allowances to help pay for tools.[/quote]still…i think it’s pretty sweet…
current job will do that tool allowance but, it would be based what we billed out…kind of different…
you wouldn’t have too much control over it…given the fact unless i am printing my time tickets…
my company like to play accounting game by changing numbers and such…[quote=”W00DBar0n” post=40690]So I had a bunch of photos sitting in my phone from the first day at the shop over a month ago. I felt like showing you some more of the tools and shop I work in.
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A 793 cold and coming into the shop, it smoked out the shop.
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The floors in the last picture are steel if you are wondering, why? Its the support side of the shop, the support side work on dozers and other tracked machines, and concrete cant handle that sort of beating.[/quote]it’s nice to have company out there really take care of their employees….wow.
it sure saves tons of money…it’s just that…once you leave that company you don’t have tools…
are we inmates?[quote=”W00DBar0n” post=40690]So I had a bunch of photos sitting in my phone from the first day at the shop over a month ago. I felt like showing you some more of the tools and shop I work in.
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A 793 cold and coming into the shop, it smoked out the shop.
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The floors in the last picture are steel if you are wondering, why? Its the support side of the shop, the support side work on dozers and other tracked machines, and concrete cant handle that sort of beating.[/quote]it’s nice to have company out there really take care of their employees….wow.
it sure saves tons of money…it’s just that…once you leave that company you don’t have tools…
are we inmates?hello,
my name is kevin , i am 35 years old and have been with automotive around 12 years, i started working at bodyshop and started see need to learn about cars to keep my own vehicle going…belive it or not…hahahha.92 honda accord was my first car i ever had…i remember one night engine flash at midnight about 30 mins away from my house…
basically had crush course on automotive and find interest in fixing vehicles.
I am a canuck technician…i had been working at dealerships, specialist indy shops, general indy shop…mostly european and asian imports are my kind of forte…i had worked at domestic dealer and such..i don’t mind working on them…
once you are so used to certain of things are done,,,it’s so hard to start over..i even tried HD shop for short time…i am not sure if it’s for me or not…they seem to need way more tools and equipment than auto techs…even to move big wheels around and installed in place…procedure and tools to help you work better..
i am thankful to return to light and med duty…keep working and finding out more about ourselves everyday…
keep motive power equipment going , right.