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  • in reply to: 2009 Accord. Need a new engine, used or reman? #851990
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      The repair shop selected an engine from a 2008 Accord that had substantially fewer miles than the old engine. It will take some time to tell if I’ll avoid any oil consumption problems, but the car seems to run well for now.

      I think the techs did a nice job on the swap. You can tell when someone cares about their work because they pay attention to the details. Wires and hoses are clipped back into place, parts were cleaned up a bit before install, and so on.

      I’m happy with the work and only time will tell if the used engine holds up. 6 month warranty, so I plan to drive it for a few months before deciding to keep or trade.

      Thanks for the advice.

      Joe

      in reply to: 2009 Accord. Need a new engine, used or reman? #850674
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        Insurance approved a used engine, so I’m going to give that a shot. 6mo warranty, with fewer miles than the engine I had. I plan to drive it for a while and then decide to keep the car or trade it before the 6months is up. The extra cost for a re-manufactured engine seems better spent on a trade if it comes to that.

        Labor for the replacement covers nothing more than the basic swap and an oil change. I’m willing to spend more to fix or replace some things that could prevent problems in the future.

        In other words, what else should I consider replacing while the engine is out?

        Joe

        in reply to: 2009 Accord. Need a new engine, used or reman? #850322
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          [quote=”cam0888″ post=157828][quote=”Joeseph23″ post=157728]

          It all comes down to whether you want to keep the car. Trading it for a better car is what I would be doing after the repair is done.

          [/quote]

          I’m strongly considering this as well.

          in reply to: 2009 Accord. Need a new engine, used or reman? #850321
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            [quote=”awry13″ post=157824]And strangely enough Toyota Camry 4 cylinder engines during similar model years also had excessive oil consumption issues. An owner did a Youtube video of his experience. Is this like the airbag issue that many manufacturers used the same supplier for the related parts?[/quote]

            My understanding, which is pretty basic, is that the problem comes from a switch to low tension piston rings. The switch was driven by a desire to get more efficiency out of the engine. MPG, EPA, and all that jazz… Honda was sued and settled a class action suit on the issue.

            The engine I had burned some oil, but at least I know that it was otherwise cared for since I bought it new. I also knew that the oil level never dropped too low, which is a problem with these engines since consumption plus people who don’t check oil levels never turns out well.

            I’m waiting for insurance to see what my options are. Right now I’m leaning towards a used engine due to cost. My preference is to find one with lower miles but that might be like searching for a unicorn. I might change my mind if I could find a remanufactured engine builder with solid reputation. So many seem iffy, just like the used engines.

            Insurance just wants to get the claim off their desk, but I don’t feel cheated. The engine I had was used and state law clearly allows used parts. Insurance also doesn’t want to spend any extra effort making sure the used engine is in decent shape. That’s frustrating.

            I’ll post an update when I get more information. I really appreciate the feedback.

            Joe

            in reply to: 2008-2011 Honda Accord 4 cyl excessive oil usage #850221
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              This story took a turn I wasn’t expecting. The car was in an accident before the oil consumption test was finished. Coolant leaked, block cracked. I have bigger problems now. I started a new thread if anyone has any advice for me.

              http://www.ericthecarguy.com/kunena/8-Service-and-Repair-Questions-Answered-Here/62143-2009-accord-need-a-new-engine-used-or-reman#157728

              in reply to: 2008-2011 Honda Accord 4 cyl excessive oil usage #846894
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                I have a 2009 Accord and am currently doing an oil consumption test at the dealer.

                First 1200 miles, burned – 1.1qts
                Second 1000 miles, burned 0.5qts

                I’m sure it burns more on the highway, so we’re trying to drive as many highway miles as possible for the 3rd 1000 miles.

                The service writer sounds like he doesn’t expect Honda to do anything about it, despite the expanded recall letter. He says we need at least 1qt/1000miles in order to qualify for a warranty piston re-ring. He also says the decision is out of his hands though.

                Any advice for navigating the process?

                Thanks-
                Joe

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