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  • in reply to: When to replace drum brake shoes ’01 Honda CivicEX #555312

    I just replaced the parking brake shoes and hardware on a 2002 Camry with over 175,000 miles. Of the 4 shoes, only one was worn enough to need replacement. Since they were parking brakes, they don’t wear nearly very fast since they’re not usually stopping a moving vehicle. I noted that there was very little friction material even on the new shoes!

    I also had the shoes replaced on a 1999 Ford Windstart at about 140,000 miles. There was still a fair amount of friction material left even then.

    So at 52,000 miles, I suspect you have another 100K miles before you have to worry about it. At 5,000 miles a year, that’s another 20 years!

    in reply to: When to replace drum brake shoes ’01 Honda CivicEX #550406

    I just replaced the parking brake shoes and hardware on a 2002 Camry with over 175,000 miles. Of the 4 shoes, only one was worn enough to need replacement. Since they were parking brakes, they don’t wear nearly very fast since they’re not usually stopping a moving vehicle. I noted that there was very little friction material even on the new shoes!

    I also had the shoes replaced on a 1999 Ford Windstart at about 140,000 miles. There was still a fair amount of friction material left even then.

    So at 52,000 miles, I suspect you have another 100K miles before you have to worry about it. At 5,000 miles a year, that’s another 20 years!

    in reply to: useless emergency brake #555298

    Check out Eric’s videos on replacing drum brakes. He’s replacing regular drum brakes versus parking brakes, but the principles are about the same. I just replaced them on my 2002 Camry. It was my first ever drum brake job. It wasn’t too bad except for the spring washers that hold the shoes in place while you’re hooking up the strut and top springs. I bought the Harbor Freight brake took kit that Eric shows pictured in his writeups for under $10. It had a spring washer tool, but I couldn’t use it because the washers were under the wheel hub. I managed to change one of them with just my thumbs, but it was NOT easy. I changed 2 of the other 3 with a large C-clamp (6 inch size) to hold the pin forward and my thumbs. The fourth one I couldn’t get my C-clamp to hold and finally asked my daughter to hold it forward and got it done in under a minute! I saw a tool on Advance Auto that MAY help in this situation that I’m going to buy for about $9. It’s Lisle Ford Brake Spring Washer Tool x 1 (Part No. LIS41100). Instead of a screwdriver style, it’s more of a wrench style. That tool looks like will slide under the wheel hub and allow pushing the spring washer down enough to compress the spring and rotate the spring washer 90 degrees to lock it in. Overall, I spent over an hour messing with the 4 spring washers. Eric’s drum brake video on the PT Cruiser shows this style of spring washer on regular drum brakes, where you have much more access as they are outside of the wheel hub.

    in reply to: useless emergency brake #550392

    Check out Eric’s videos on replacing drum brakes. He’s replacing regular drum brakes versus parking brakes, but the principles are about the same. I just replaced them on my 2002 Camry. It was my first ever drum brake job. It wasn’t too bad except for the spring washers that hold the shoes in place while you’re hooking up the strut and top springs. I bought the Harbor Freight brake took kit that Eric shows pictured in his writeups for under $10. It had a spring washer tool, but I couldn’t use it because the washers were under the wheel hub. I managed to change one of them with just my thumbs, but it was NOT easy. I changed 2 of the other 3 with a large C-clamp (6 inch size) to hold the pin forward and my thumbs. The fourth one I couldn’t get my C-clamp to hold and finally asked my daughter to hold it forward and got it done in under a minute! I saw a tool on Advance Auto that MAY help in this situation that I’m going to buy for about $9. It’s Lisle Ford Brake Spring Washer Tool x 1 (Part No. LIS41100). Instead of a screwdriver style, it’s more of a wrench style. That tool looks like will slide under the wheel hub and allow pushing the spring washer down enough to compress the spring and rotate the spring washer 90 degrees to lock it in. Overall, I spent over an hour messing with the 4 spring washers. Eric’s drum brake video on the PT Cruiser shows this style of spring washer on regular drum brakes, where you have much more access as they are outside of the wheel hub.

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