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No one has messed with the cap at all. I really thought it was a clogged fuel filter for the longest time. I do know how to pull the codes in OBD1 but its not throwing any codes. But I was thinking since its backfiring and all shouldn’t it be throwing a code? I guess it could be burned out? If that’s the case can you pull the codes with out getting a scanner? I have one for OBD2 but not one.
Would some fuel injector cleaner help? I have always been a huge fan on the Lucas injector cleaner! Always been good in all of my other cars.No one has messed with the cap at all. I really thought it was a clogged fuel filter for the longest time. I do know how to pull the codes in OBD1 but its not throwing any codes. But I was thinking since its backfiring and all shouldn’t it be throwing a code? I guess it could be burned out? If that’s the case can you pull the codes with out getting a scanner? I have one for OBD2 but not one.
Would some fuel injector cleaner help? I have always been a huge fan on the Lucas injector cleaner! Always been good in all of my other cars.ok after doing some research it does not have a carb it has Throttle Body Injection? it just looked like a carb or what I thought was a carb. I know even less about that. This is the first that I have ever heard about this. Does this make anything more clear?
ok after doing some research it does not have a carb it has Throttle Body Injection? it just looked like a carb or what I thought was a carb. I know even less about that. This is the first that I have ever heard about this. Does this make anything more clear?
I had something happen exactly like this. I have 3 bolts on my housing and I broke two of the three. If you break the heads clean off what I did it knock the the housing off with a rubber mallet. After it comes off i could see the two bolts. I then hit it will some PB blaster and some heat then just took a pair of vice grips and turned it out. It kind of took a while but its way better than trying to drill out really small bolts. You will have to go but a replacement bolt. Just take the bolt with you and get the same length and size. It will be pretty cheap.
I had something happen exactly like this. I have 3 bolts on my housing and I broke two of the three. If you break the heads clean off what I did it knock the the housing off with a rubber mallet. After it comes off i could see the two bolts. I then hit it will some PB blaster and some heat then just took a pair of vice grips and turned it out. It kind of took a while but its way better than trying to drill out really small bolts. You will have to go but a replacement bolt. Just take the bolt with you and get the same length and size. It will be pretty cheap.
Ya next time you go out just stop by auto zone or any auto store and they will pull the codes for free. Let us know what the code is and we can help you.
Ya next time you go out just stop by auto zone or any auto store and they will pull the codes for free. Let us know what the code is and we can help you.
Are there any Check engine lights on?
I had one of these and it did the same thing it was the crank sensor. But I had a check engine light for it.Are there any Check engine lights on?
I had one of these and it did the same thing it was the crank sensor. But I had a check engine light for it.Ok. So It wasn’t the starter but it was the built in security system. I also Figured out how to fix this with out taking it to the dealer and it only cost a little under 6 bucks and took less than an hour.( The dealer gave me an estimate of around $600 )
I am going to post this in the How To section too.
So how the VATS system works is that there is a resistor in the key and in the ignition cylinder. If something is put into the cylinder that does not have the same resistance the car goes into security mode and will not let the car crank so that the car can not be stolen.
This is what happened to my girlfriends car. So What you can do is measure the resistance of the key( This is measured in Ohms if you don’t know) Her key was 1.46 but all keys have different resistance ratings. You measure this but getting your voltmeter and on a two sided key( The key will have two black squares in the middle of the key body with a line in the middle of the black square.) put your negative on one of the metal lines and then the positive on the other line. When you do this you should get the resistance.
After that you will need to go to Radio Shack and by a resistor the is equal or very close to the resistance of the key. You will also need to buy some kind of crimping tool to keep the resistor connected to the wires. You can also soder them if you have the space.
Once you have the parts you will need to go to your car and probably remove some panels near the steering wheel. You are looking for an orange wire. This wire will be running down from the steering wheel. Inside this wire there will be to white wires. You will need to cut the orange wire and then take the side that is going to the fire wall and need to slice the orange wire open so that you are able to see the two white wires. You don’t need to do anything with the side that comes from the steering wheel. You will need to the strip the two white wires. You are going to take the resistor or resistors that you bought and hook one of the white wires that you stripped on one side of the resistor and then the other white wire to the other side of the resistor. If you have some one to help you can test to see if this has worked. As long as your hold the resistor against the wires the car should turn over if you have done everything correctly.
Now if this doesn’t work and you have done everything correctly you can have a ECM problem or a key problem. Figuring out what the problem is is kinda tricky but this method doesn’t really hurt because its very cheap and from what I have read you will have to get a new key or ECM but I am not exactly sure about this. I have not done this. So You will have to look in to this on your own.
If you do some research you will find a lot of information. And A TON of walkthroughs.
Also There is some good YouTube videos on this too.
I put the most basic way of doing this fix. I saw some people who make the wires look nice and people who make more complicated systems, so its kinda up to you.
Just one side note I did see a cool fix where the guy put a toggle switch on his fix and when he had to leave his car in a bad part of town he would just flip off the switch and leave his car in the security mode. then when he got back to his car he would just flip the switch and the car would be out of it. Kinda neat.
Here is a link to what I used.
http://vats.likeabigdog.com/
Also, here is a basic picture that might help.Ok. So It wasn’t the starter but it was the built in security system. I also Figured out how to fix this with out taking it to the dealer and it only cost a little under 6 bucks and took less than an hour.( The dealer gave me an estimate of around $600 )
I am going to post this in the How To section too.
So how the VATS system works is that there is a resistor in the key and in the ignition cylinder. If something is put into the cylinder that does not have the same resistance the car goes into security mode and will not let the car crank so that the car can not be stolen.
This is what happened to my girlfriends car. So What you can do is measure the resistance of the key( This is measured in Ohms if you don’t know) Her key was 1.46 but all keys have different resistance ratings. You measure this but getting your voltmeter and on a two sided key( The key will have two black squares in the middle of the key body with a line in the middle of the black square.) put your negative on one of the metal lines and then the positive on the other line. When you do this you should get the resistance.
After that you will need to go to Radio Shack and by a resistor the is equal or very close to the resistance of the key. You will also need to buy some kind of crimping tool to keep the resistor connected to the wires. You can also soder them if you have the space.
Once you have the parts you will need to go to your car and probably remove some panels near the steering wheel. You are looking for an orange wire. This wire will be running down from the steering wheel. Inside this wire there will be to white wires. You will need to cut the orange wire and then take the side that is going to the fire wall and need to slice the orange wire open so that you are able to see the two white wires. You don’t need to do anything with the side that comes from the steering wheel. You will need to the strip the two white wires. You are going to take the resistor or resistors that you bought and hook one of the white wires that you stripped on one side of the resistor and then the other white wire to the other side of the resistor. If you have some one to help you can test to see if this has worked. As long as your hold the resistor against the wires the car should turn over if you have done everything correctly.
Now if this doesn’t work and you have done everything correctly you can have a ECM problem or a key problem. Figuring out what the problem is is kinda tricky but this method doesn’t really hurt because its very cheap and from what I have read you will have to get a new key or ECM but I am not exactly sure about this. I have not done this. So You will have to look in to this on your own.
If you do some research you will find a lot of information. And A TON of walkthroughs.
Also There is some good YouTube videos on this too.
I put the most basic way of doing this fix. I saw some people who make the wires look nice and people who make more complicated systems, so its kinda up to you.
Just one side note I did see a cool fix where the guy put a toggle switch on his fix and when he had to leave his car in a bad part of town he would just flip off the switch and leave his car in the security mode. then when he got back to his car he would just flip the switch and the car would be out of it. Kinda neat.
Here is a link to what I used.
http://vats.likeabigdog.com/
Also, here is a basic picture that might help.OK after doing a few more test(drop down) and I also checked the two wires and they were both good. After doing some research online I am pretty sure that the car is in the security mode. I know that with her car it doesn’t send the ignition signal to the starter and I know from the test when you turn the key over the only wire that doesn’t get power is the ignition or the S post. So does any one have any experience with dealing with the factory security system? I know from the reading I have done that its not real easy but it seems like it can be done.
