[Dave]

[quote=”stingray66″ post=41143]This is getting to look like amateur hour
Today I changed my oil in
My jeep It takes 6qt in put in 5 1/2 qts and put in a 1/2 of Mabel mystery oil in
I have done this for 40 years I use this in my oil and in my fuel
marvel mystery oil is one of the best products out there top engine builders use this all the time[/quote]
I would say, that your “success” is because of your ability and not of the product you specify.

[Dave]

…I would go to your DMV first…

I agree.

Check with your DMV.

And be sure to check that car once, twice, three times because in most states, when you buy a used car, it’s yours – problems and all – and there’s no recourse against the seller if they bamboozled you.

[Dave]

…I would go to your DMV first…

I agree.

Check with your DMV.

And be sure to check that car once, twice, three times because in most states, when you buy a used car, it’s yours – problems and all – and there’s no recourse against the seller if they bamboozled you.

[Dave]

You can feel it. Feel the hose up and when you hit a soft spot, it’s almost like your finger will go through it.

Also check for cracks, corrosion, and anything that looks funny.

And then there’s time.

When one of my cars hit 150,000 miles (15 years old), the upper was starting to get soft at the thermostat housing. That’s when I went and bought all the hoses for my car: upper, lower and heater hoses.

I should have replaced the water pump at that time too because it went out 10,000 miles later.

But that’s me – if it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have no luck at all.

[Dave]

You can feel it. Feel the hose up and when you hit a soft spot, it’s almost like your finger will go through it.

Also check for cracks, corrosion, and anything that looks funny.

And then there’s time.

When one of my cars hit 150,000 miles (15 years old), the upper was starting to get soft at the thermostat housing. That’s when I went and bought all the hoses for my car: upper, lower and heater hoses.

I should have replaced the water pump at that time too because it went out 10,000 miles later.

But that’s me – if it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have no luck at all.

[Dave]

Get the Honda service manual.

I have a Honda and I just pulled up the service manual (I got the electronic version on eBay a couple of years ago for $30). There’s a diagnostic chart and test procedures in it and it’s pretty lengthy.

When it comes to problems like this, the only way to truly know and fix the problem is to follow the diagnostic charts that the manufacturer created and do some long and tedious testing.

There’s no way around it.

Any posts here are just going to be guesses – maybe educated guesses from the Honda Techs, but guesses never the less.

[Dave]

Get the Honda service manual.

I have a Honda and I just pulled up the service manual (I got the electronic version on eBay a couple of years ago for $30). There’s a diagnostic chart and test procedures in it and it’s pretty lengthy.

When it comes to problems like this, the only way to truly know and fix the problem is to follow the diagnostic charts that the manufacturer created and do some long and tedious testing.

There’s no way around it.

Any posts here are just going to be guesses – maybe educated guesses from the Honda Techs, but guesses never the less.

[Dave]

As of 2002, Mystery Oil is composed of 74 percent mineral oil, 25 percent stoddard solvent, and 1 percent lard.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Mystery_Oil

As you can see, this was invented to clean carburetors. I would never put this in my crankcase nor in my gas tank either because I’m not sure what it would do to my particular car.

But let’s consider this:

In January, while keeping tire pressure the same and using the same crankcase oil, track you mileage until May.

Then in May, go buy a lucky rabbit’s foot and again, while keeping tire pressure and oi the same, track your mileage until September.

I guarantee you that your mileage will increase by at least 10% and all because of that Lucky Rabbit’s foot!

Of course you don’t believe me! You have a brain!

Reasons for increased gas mileage in Summer:
1. Summer blend gas is different and the additives to stabilize the gas increase mileage.
http://ask.cars.com/2009/02/whats-the-difference-between-summerblend-gasoline-and-winterblend-gasoline-does-it-affect-my-cars-pe.html

2.Summer air is warmer and therefore less dense, the fuel required for a proper mixture decreases and hence; higher mileage.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/03/getting-better-gas-mileage-in-warm-weather-here-why/

All I’m saying is that we use the same critical thinking and skepticism. And many times we confuse correlation with causation: my mileage happened to have increased when I got the Lucky Rabbit’s foot; therefore, the Rabbit’s foot is the cause when in fact there are other reasons (Summer gas blend and less dense warm Summer air)

[Dave]

As of 2002, Mystery Oil is composed of 74 percent mineral oil, 25 percent stoddard solvent, and 1 percent lard.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Mystery_Oil

As you can see, this was invented to clean carburetors. I would never put this in my crankcase nor in my gas tank either because I’m not sure what it would do to my particular car.

But let’s consider this:

In January, while keeping tire pressure the same and using the same crankcase oil, track you mileage until May.

Then in May, go buy a lucky rabbit’s foot and again, while keeping tire pressure and oi the same, track your mileage until September.

I guarantee you that your mileage will increase by at least 10% and all because of that Lucky Rabbit’s foot!

Of course you don’t believe me! You have a brain!

Reasons for increased gas mileage in Summer:
1. Summer blend gas is different and the additives to stabilize the gas increase mileage.
http://ask.cars.com/2009/02/whats-the-difference-between-summerblend-gasoline-and-winterblend-gasoline-does-it-affect-my-cars-pe.html

2.Summer air is warmer and therefore less dense, the fuel required for a proper mixture decreases and hence; higher mileage.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/08/03/getting-better-gas-mileage-in-warm-weather-here-why/

All I’m saying is that we use the same critical thinking and skepticism. And many times we confuse correlation with causation: my mileage happened to have increased when I got the Lucky Rabbit’s foot; therefore, the Rabbit’s foot is the cause when in fact there are other reasons (Summer gas blend and less dense warm Summer air)

[Dave]

Yeah, it’s a title thing.

As far as I can tell the training is the same.

The only thing I would consider is if they have an ASE cert.

Then they can call themselves a ballerina for all I care.

[Dave]

Yeah, it’s a title thing.

As far as I can tell the training is the same.

The only thing I would consider is if they have an ASE cert.

Then they can call themselves a ballerina for all I care.

[Dave]

First of all, all you see for “data” on the internet for this product are testimonials. I can assure you, that if I sold a rabbit’s foot that boosted a car’s performance, I would get plenty of testimonials that says it works.

People want to believe in things.

Get data. Eric – the guy who owns this site – always says get data.

Here’s what would convince me that the product works for whatever it claims to do.
Two fleets of cars of all the same make and model with identical accessories driven for at least a year. One with this product and one without.

Then the cars torn down by technicians and examined by them and engineers.

Do a statistical analysis on the wear and whatnot and see if the there is any statistical significance between both “populations” of cars.

Then run the test again testing one component – say the engine.

Do the same tear-down, etc …

Then run the test again with another component…..

Repeat.

Basically, do what is down for pharmaceuticals.

That’s just me.

I’m very skeptical.

[Dave]

First of all, all you see for “data” on the internet for this product are testimonials. I can assure you, that if I sold a rabbit’s foot that boosted a car’s performance, I would get plenty of testimonials that says it works.

People want to believe in things.

Get data. Eric – the guy who owns this site – always says get data.

Here’s what would convince me that the product works for whatever it claims to do.
Two fleets of cars of all the same make and model with identical accessories driven for at least a year. One with this product and one without.

Then the cars torn down by technicians and examined by them and engineers.

Do a statistical analysis on the wear and whatnot and see if the there is any statistical significance between both “populations” of cars.

Then run the test again testing one component – say the engine.

Do the same tear-down, etc …

Then run the test again with another component…..

Repeat.

Basically, do what is down for pharmaceuticals.

That’s just me.

I’m very skeptical.

[Dave]

Yeah, I got new hardware.

I ripped them apart again this morning. I took some sandpaper to the shoes because there was a little glazing from the old drums.
Cleaned them up and reassembled.

Most of the scary sounds are gone now – for whatever reason.

But when applying (pedal or parking brake), you really hear the shoes on the drums.

You know that sound you hear when the adjustor is just a little too far out when you spin the drum? The sound of the drum against the shoe? Imagine that only a lot louder.

I hate to just chalk it up to the shoes being noisy. With the old shoes, it made that sound only when stopping when backing up.

[Dave]

Yeah, I got new hardware.

I ripped them apart again this morning. I took some sandpaper to the shoes because there was a little glazing from the old drums.
Cleaned them up and reassembled.

Most of the scary sounds are gone now – for whatever reason.

But when applying (pedal or parking brake), you really hear the shoes on the drums.

You know that sound you hear when the adjustor is just a little too far out when you spin the drum? The sound of the drum against the shoe? Imagine that only a lot louder.

I hate to just chalk it up to the shoes being noisy. With the old shoes, it made that sound only when stopping when backing up.

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