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[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=33079][quote=”-=Col.Mantras=-” post=32847][quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=32820][quote=”-=Col.Mantras=-” post=32726]I recommend replacing the tensioner with whatever came stock on the vehicle. Just replace the tensioner with the belt and waterpump and you won’t have any issues.
You may be risking piston to valve contact if you start substituting parts from one model year to another.
Cheers[/quote]
There are 2 types of tensioners for that engine, one (the grenade) is crap and it would be wise to swap it out for the other style that ALSO comes on that engine. The better style uses a retaining clip to hold tension when you install it. It has nothing to do with the valves or any issues with the engine just the timing belt tension.[/quote]
I’ve done hundreds of these belts, and only 2 later style tensioners have been leaking at the time of the service. You’re correct Eric that one is a better design for sure, but the other one will do the job just fine as well. I suppose my answer should have been that you can use a 99 timing kit on a 2006, but in my professional opinion the difference is negligible.
When it comes to timing components, I never reuse them. For a Honda, you must use a Honda OEM waterpump, but you can use an aftermarket kit for the rest. (they’re pretty much all made by Gates Co. and rebranded) While I haven’t tried it, I would think that the older style short tensioner coupled with the newer style smaller idler pulley would cause a slack belt that could jump time and cause PTV contact. His question was can he use a 99 tensioner on an 06. Yes you can provided you also replace the idler with that of a 99. But *I* wouldn’t bother. Just my $0.02.[/quote]
So it seems we agree but we’re just using different words?[/quote]
Yes we’re both agreeing. 🙂 The point of difference is I don’t think its worth it is all. I was just providing a deeper answer. I’m sorry if I’ve offended in some way Eric. That was not my intent. I want to help you with these forums and peoples questions.
Cheers
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=33079][quote=”-=Col.Mantras=-” post=32847][quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=32820][quote=”-=Col.Mantras=-” post=32726]I recommend replacing the tensioner with whatever came stock on the vehicle. Just replace the tensioner with the belt and waterpump and you won’t have any issues.
You may be risking piston to valve contact if you start substituting parts from one model year to another.
Cheers[/quote]
There are 2 types of tensioners for that engine, one (the grenade) is crap and it would be wise to swap it out for the other style that ALSO comes on that engine. The better style uses a retaining clip to hold tension when you install it. It has nothing to do with the valves or any issues with the engine just the timing belt tension.[/quote]
I’ve done hundreds of these belts, and only 2 later style tensioners have been leaking at the time of the service. You’re correct Eric that one is a better design for sure, but the other one will do the job just fine as well. I suppose my answer should have been that you can use a 99 timing kit on a 2006, but in my professional opinion the difference is negligible.
When it comes to timing components, I never reuse them. For a Honda, you must use a Honda OEM waterpump, but you can use an aftermarket kit for the rest. (they’re pretty much all made by Gates Co. and rebranded) While I haven’t tried it, I would think that the older style short tensioner coupled with the newer style smaller idler pulley would cause a slack belt that could jump time and cause PTV contact. His question was can he use a 99 tensioner on an 06. Yes you can provided you also replace the idler with that of a 99. But *I* wouldn’t bother. Just my $0.02.[/quote]
So it seems we agree but we’re just using different words?[/quote]
Yes we’re both agreeing. 🙂 The point of difference is I don’t think its worth it is all. I was just providing a deeper answer. I’m sorry if I’ve offended in some way Eric. That was not my intent. I want to help you with these forums and peoples questions.
Cheers
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=32820][quote=”-=Col.Mantras=-” post=32726]I recommend replacing the tensioner with whatever came stock on the vehicle. Just replace the tensioner with the belt and waterpump and you won’t have any issues.
You may be risking piston to valve contact if you start substituting parts from one model year to another.
Cheers[/quote]
There are 2 types of tensioners for that engine, one (the grenade) is crap and it would be wise to swap it out for the other style that ALSO comes on that engine. The better style uses a retaining clip to hold tension when you install it. It has nothing to do with the valves or any issues with the engine just the timing belt tension.[/quote]
I’ve done hundreds of these belts, and only 2 later style tensioners have been leaking at the time of the service. You’re correct Eric that one is a better design for sure, but the other one will do the job just fine as well. I suppose my answer should have been that you can use a 99 timing kit on a 2006, but in my professional opinion the difference is negligible.
When it comes to timing components, I never reuse them. For a Honda, you must use a Honda OEM waterpump, but you can use an aftermarket kit for the rest. (they’re pretty much all made by Gates Co. and rebranded) While I haven’t tried it, I would think that the older style short tensioner coupled with the newer style smaller idler pulley would cause a slack belt that could jump time and cause PTV contact. His question was can he use a 99 tensioner on an 06. Yes you can provided you also replace the idler with that of a 99. But *I* wouldn’t bother. Just my $0.02.
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=32820][quote=”-=Col.Mantras=-” post=32726]I recommend replacing the tensioner with whatever came stock on the vehicle. Just replace the tensioner with the belt and waterpump and you won’t have any issues.
You may be risking piston to valve contact if you start substituting parts from one model year to another.
Cheers[/quote]
There are 2 types of tensioners for that engine, one (the grenade) is crap and it would be wise to swap it out for the other style that ALSO comes on that engine. The better style uses a retaining clip to hold tension when you install it. It has nothing to do with the valves or any issues with the engine just the timing belt tension.[/quote]
I’ve done hundreds of these belts, and only 2 later style tensioners have been leaking at the time of the service. You’re correct Eric that one is a better design for sure, but the other one will do the job just fine as well. I suppose my answer should have been that you can use a 99 timing kit on a 2006, but in my professional opinion the difference is negligible.
When it comes to timing components, I never reuse them. For a Honda, you must use a Honda OEM waterpump, but you can use an aftermarket kit for the rest. (they’re pretty much all made by Gates Co. and rebranded) While I haven’t tried it, I would think that the older style short tensioner coupled with the newer style smaller idler pulley would cause a slack belt that could jump time and cause PTV contact. His question was can he use a 99 tensioner on an 06. Yes you can provided you also replace the idler with that of a 99. But *I* wouldn’t bother. Just my $0.02.
Looks like a real old auto start. I’d remove it and repair the vehicles wiring where it was connected to avoid future issues.
Looks like a real old auto start. I’d remove it and repair the vehicles wiring where it was connected to avoid future issues.
I recommend replacing the tensioner with whatever came stock on the vehicle. Just replace the tensioner with the belt and waterpump and you won’t have any issues.
You may be risking piston to valve contact if you start substituting parts from one model year to another.
Cheers
I recommend replacing the tensioner with whatever came stock on the vehicle. Just replace the tensioner with the belt and waterpump and you won’t have any issues.
You may be risking piston to valve contact if you start substituting parts from one model year to another.
Cheers
Just remove the pump and grab the broken bolt with vise grips and turn it out. When re-installing the pump, make damn sure the proper length bolts are going into the right holes. Also tighten down in 2 passes BY HAND. DO NOT use power tools! You will be able to feel the bolt bottom out so this doesn’t happen again.
Cheers
Just remove the pump and grab the broken bolt with vise grips and turn it out. When re-installing the pump, make damn sure the proper length bolts are going into the right holes. Also tighten down in 2 passes BY HAND. DO NOT use power tools! You will be able to feel the bolt bottom out so this doesn’t happen again.
Cheers
Just curious as to why you’re replacing the box. Is it because it leaks? Is it loose?
The most common repairs on those boxes are the sector shaft seals. ( the sector shaft is the shaft that comes out the bottom of the steering box that the pitman arm attaches to) These seals can be replaced without removing the box.
Every once and awhile I’ll see one that has a sector shaft that is too badly scored to seal properly. Only then would I be selling a whole new steering box.
Cheers
Just curious as to why you’re replacing the box. Is it because it leaks? Is it loose?
The most common repairs on those boxes are the sector shaft seals. ( the sector shaft is the shaft that comes out the bottom of the steering box that the pitman arm attaches to) These seals can be replaced without removing the box.
Every once and awhile I’ll see one that has a sector shaft that is too badly scored to seal properly. Only then would I be selling a whole new steering box.
Cheers
You may have a plugged catalytic converter. Or some other restriction not allowing the engine to breathe. I’m pretty sure those Malibu’s don’t have a downstream o2 sensor to monitor catalyst efficiency. If it turns out to be a cat converter, remember that this is a symptom of another problem. Cats don’t die, they’re murdered. 🙂 It could be getting too much fuel, or the car is burning excessive amounts of coolant or oil. A vacuum leak will cause your engine to starve for fuel and run hot, which can also cause your cat to melt down from heat.
Double and triple check your work with the fuel injectors. If they aren’t installed correctly you will have all sorts of issues. Make sure you connected every vacuum line properly and in the correct locations.
The engine may have been burning coolant with the bad LIM gaskets. That will kill a cat. Whenever I have a GM car with bad LIM gaskets I always go further and sell head gaskets. Never had a comeback as a result.