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The closest thing to a luxury car I’ve ever had was a loaded 93 Intripid.
It was a nice ride and the toys were fun to play with.
But, as the car aged the toys became less and less reliable along with anything the dealer decided
not to service regularly. (You know, they use a lot of salt on the roads in the winter locally. :))
Does the same guy train all dealer service reps?
What I’m trying to say, I think, is that it was not much fun for me to try to squeeze extra life
out of that car as I watched it age to where it was not financially prudent to repair it any longer.
In short:
New Toys = Fun
Old Toys = Not so much Fun!From what I can see so far it looks like there are 3 opds sensors in the passenger seat back.
Two or three trips ago , my “side air bag off” light came on again. Long story short, I found (by touch) a connector ( I believe ) projecting through the seatback a bit. It seemed that by pushing on it lightly I was making the “side airbag off” light turn off. It took about 10 highway miles (10 minutes) of pushing on the sensor connector before the side airbag off light stayed off.
The only thing left for me now ( I hope ) is the getting the computer to recognize the seat belt being buckled when no one is in the passenger seat, because when I buckle the passenger seat belt with the seat not occupied, the side airbag off light doesn’t come on ( like said above ) it is supposed to.
I also have to double check sitting in the passenger seat myself without the seat belt buckled, to see if the SRS light stays on like it’s supposed to.
I have another seat ( taking pictures as I go along ), but I want to get the original seat working as much as I can before I mess with the SRS computer again, by disconnecting the battery to switch seats around.
Let me know if you see I’m missing something obvious, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. 😉From what I can see so far it looks like there are 3 opds sensors in the passenger seat back.
Two or three trips ago , my “side air bag off” light came on again. Long story short, I found (by touch) a connector ( I believe ) projecting through the seatback a bit. It seemed that by pushing on it lightly I was making the “side airbag off” light turn off. It took about 10 highway miles (10 minutes) of pushing on the sensor connector before the side airbag off light stayed off.
The only thing left for me now ( I hope ) is the getting the computer to recognize the seat belt being buckled when no one is in the passenger seat, because when I buckle the passenger seat belt with the seat not occupied, the side airbag off light doesn’t come on ( like said above ) it is supposed to.
I also have to double check sitting in the passenger seat myself without the seat belt buckled, to see if the SRS light stays on like it’s supposed to.
I have another seat ( taking pictures as I go along ), but I want to get the original seat working as much as I can before I mess with the SRS computer again, by disconnecting the battery to switch seats around.
Let me know if you see I’m missing something obvious, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. 😉I’m hoping to have more info about this in a few days.
So far so good after about 50 miles and no SRS light, fingers still crossed..I’m hoping to have more info about this in a few days.
So far so good after about 50 miles and no SRS light, fingers still crossed..Here is my models (( EX 4DR (side SRS) AT ))
passenger seat parts dia
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry2=2002&catcgry3=4DR+EX+%28SIDE+SRS%29&catcgry4=KA4AT&catcgry5=FRONT+SEAT+%28R.%29I think the part is #5 pad assy seat back (with OPDS sensor )
I should be able to trace that sensor.
I think it may be the wire that enters the front seat cushion up near the head rest.I’ll look at it again in more detail later today,
but I doubt I’ll mess with it until I’m sure I know what I’m doing
and thanks again for helping me to get the SRS light off.Here is my models (( EX 4DR (side SRS) AT ))
passenger seat parts dia
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&catcgry1=CIVIC&catcgry2=2002&catcgry3=4DR+EX+%28SIDE+SRS%29&catcgry4=KA4AT&catcgry5=FRONT+SEAT+%28R.%29I think the part is #5 pad assy seat back (with OPDS sensor )
I should be able to trace that sensor.
I think it may be the wire that enters the front seat cushion up near the head rest.I’ll look at it again in more detail later today,
but I doubt I’ll mess with it until I’m sure I know what I’m doing
and thanks again for helping me to get the SRS light off.I was able to reset the SRS light but the system is still not working right.
I plugged passenger side 3P back in then got srs 9-4 and 9-3
I ran the car for 15 min with the heat on to warm up, (it’s snowing)
Then I cleared the SRS light.But, some stuff is still not working right.
The seat belt warning light stays on when I get out of the drivers seat
The passenger buckle switch still doesn’t turn off the seat belt light
If I buckle the driver seat belt while in the passenger seat the seat belt light goes out.I know it still could be anything…. but at least the srs light is out,
at least for now.pics
driver-seat plug
passenger-seat plug
peeking at the srs controllerI’m taking it for a test run..
thanks for the docs Raistian
I’ll post back of the srs lights up again, or I actually figure out what is wrong.I was able to reset the SRS light but the system is still not working right.
I plugged passenger side 3P back in then got srs 9-4 and 9-3
I ran the car for 15 min with the heat on to warm up, (it’s snowing)
Then I cleared the SRS light.But, some stuff is still not working right.
The seat belt warning light stays on when I get out of the drivers seat
The passenger buckle switch still doesn’t turn off the seat belt light
If I buckle the driver seat belt while in the passenger seat the seat belt light goes out.I know it still could be anything…. but at least the srs light is out,
at least for now.pics
driver-seat plug
passenger-seat plug
peeking at the srs controllerI’m taking it for a test run..
thanks for the docs Raistian
I’ll post back of the srs lights up again, or I actually figure out what is wrong.sorry about all that whining above, I see there are mechanics here with real issues.
Mine seems trivial in comparison to some.
Anyways, I shot some video and stills and I have the center console out, but now I have to find the
srs controller, because it’s not under the radio behind the center console where I thought I was going to find it.
I’ve got open and resistance to the pins in the wiring both from the 3P plug under the seat to the seat belt switch and the floor harness to chassis ground, so my next step is checking the floor harness to the srs controller leads. I’m now thinking I may need to have the srs controller reprogrammed, or get a HDS HIM and try to do it with that.
I also unzipped the passenger side seat back cover, but all the wires back there are in plastic holders.
It’s early in the morning and I am quitting for another day, but before I did I ran another code check on the srs. This time I got a 9-4
I was confused until I remembered I had not plugged passenger seat belt switch connector back in.
I’ll recheck srs scan tomorrow with connector plugged back in, before I start my search for the srs controller and disconnect the battery.I replaced the passenger control arm 2 weeks ago
sorry about all that whining above, I see there are mechanics here with real issues.
Mine seems trivial in comparison to some.
Anyways, I shot some video and stills and I have the center console out, but now I have to find the
srs controller, because it’s not under the radio behind the center console where I thought I was going to find it.
I’ve got open and resistance to the pins in the wiring both from the 3P plug under the seat to the seat belt switch and the floor harness to chassis ground, so my next step is checking the floor harness to the srs controller leads. I’m now thinking I may need to have the srs controller reprogrammed, or get a HDS HIM and try to do it with that.
I also unzipped the passenger side seat back cover, but all the wires back there are in plastic holders.
It’s early in the morning and I am quitting for another day, but before I did I ran another code check on the srs. This time I got a 9-4
I was confused until I remembered I had not plugged passenger seat belt switch connector back in.
I’ll recheck srs scan tomorrow with connector plugged back in, before I start my search for the srs controller and disconnect the battery.I replaced the passenger control arm 2 weeks ago
I’m still a bit in the confused state ATM.
Once I start testing the circuit(s), I’ll keep my fingers crossed
and hope one of the tests points at the cause.What I’ve noticed so far on the passenger seat is a three plugs terminal array
where the 3p seat belt switch connector is plugged into one of those terminals in the array.
I’m assuming about the other two as well as the side air bag connector
that the honda tech did not put back up in it’s cradle ( from what it looks like to me ).
I can do things like put that back myself, when and if I find them and I know what I’m doing.
But the poor 02 keeps throwing new issues at me, and I’m hoping I can wrap this one up shortly.I’m also thinking about my own hds system. I have a lower middle actron (2 years ),
and a scan gauge 2( about a month ),
I’m still learning how to set and read the scan gauge.
The hds might be a bit more then I can handle currently,
but I’m already starting to think about the newer hybrid.
And the jobs on the older civic I’m thinking should be a good primer
for what I’ll be looking at on the hybrid,
( still fully dealer serviced ),
but I’m already getting hints from the service dept ( not good ones either )
and having replace the recycled oil I’m now getting.
both cars are under the dealer lifetime free oil change extra service agreement.I’m still a bit in the confused state ATM.
Once I start testing the circuit(s), I’ll keep my fingers crossed
and hope one of the tests points at the cause.What I’ve noticed so far on the passenger seat is a three plugs terminal array
where the 3p seat belt switch connector is plugged into one of those terminals in the array.
I’m assuming about the other two as well as the side air bag connector
that the honda tech did not put back up in it’s cradle ( from what it looks like to me ).
I can do things like put that back myself, when and if I find them and I know what I’m doing.
But the poor 02 keeps throwing new issues at me, and I’m hoping I can wrap this one up shortly.I’m also thinking about my own hds system. I have a lower middle actron (2 years ),
and a scan gauge 2( about a month ),
I’m still learning how to set and read the scan gauge.
The hds might be a bit more then I can handle currently,
but I’m already starting to think about the newer hybrid.
And the jobs on the older civic I’m thinking should be a good primer
for what I’ll be looking at on the hybrid,
( still fully dealer serviced ),
but I’m already getting hints from the service dept ( not good ones either )
and having replace the recycled oil I’m now getting.
both cars are under the dealer lifetime free oil change extra service agreement.It will help.
I was just under the seat a few minutes ago,
tracing the wires from the seat belt switch to the plug under the seat.
I looked at a seat belt buckle pic online and thought it would be a bit easier
to identify the seat belt buckle switch 3P connector after seeing the pic,
so I could test to see if it was loose.
Now I can actually use my multi-tester to check for resistance
without too much fear of messing with the wrong terminals.It will help.
I was just under the seat a few minutes ago,
tracing the wires from the seat belt switch to the plug under the seat.
I looked at a seat belt buckle pic online and thought it would be a bit easier
to identify the seat belt buckle switch 3P connector after seeing the pic,
so I could test to see if it was loose.
Now I can actually use my multi-tester to check for resistance
without too much fear of messing with the wrong terminals.
