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Oh my! YOU!
Typed those numbers into one of the parts sites – apparently I was using the wrong one (estore.honda.com) This will be my new source.
Hey, how did you know to drop a zero off the end of the part number?
Thank you for the find and the education! Much appreciated!!!
I owe you one!
Oh my! YOU!
Typed those numbers into one of the parts sites – apparently I was using the wrong one (estore.honda.com) This will be my new source.
Hey, how did you know to drop a zero off the end of the part number?
Thank you for the find and the education! Much appreciated!!!
I owe you one!
[quote=”JS” post=123399]
Trouble is the oil cleaner stuff works well as a maintenance item. I use it every oil change in my car.
[/quote]OK, I’ll bite! What is the “oil cleaner stuff” you use? Is it something you add to the oil and leave in place or run it a few days before changing the oil?
First Honda Dealer I used with my new car always added a bottle of Wynns during the oil change. They swore by it as a beneficial additive to add life to the car. What do you think?
[quote=”JS” post=123399]
Trouble is the oil cleaner stuff works well as a maintenance item. I use it every oil change in my car.
[/quote]OK, I’ll bite! What is the “oil cleaner stuff” you use? Is it something you add to the oil and leave in place or run it a few days before changing the oil?
First Honda Dealer I used with my new car always added a bottle of Wynns during the oil change. They swore by it as a beneficial additive to add life to the car. What do you think?
[quote=”college man” post=122826]Glad to hear the job went well. If you took pictures of the process
we could put this in repair central how to forum for the next person
to see. :)[/quote]er, me? {blush} you’d want my pics even though Eric has excellent videos?
Actually, as I was laying there heating up the first bolt, I thought about taking pictures and decided no one would want them. Now that said, I think one of the front ring seals fell out and I may need to pull the whole thing down to get the seal back in. (noticed some smoke coming up from the header) Prolly will use the extra set of steel OEM ring seals if I do. If you think it would be of value, I could mock up the old pipe and catch some snaps of the process? Certainly the re-install will be the same.
I do have a full set from the thermostat replacement – if that would be of any use. Also planned on a full set for the radiator replacement.
With so many good videos of Eric’s can’t see how some still photos would help? But hey, if it does, I’m glad to contribute as a thanks for what I have been able to learn here.
[quote=”college man” post=122826]Glad to hear the job went well. If you took pictures of the process
we could put this in repair central how to forum for the next person
to see. :)[/quote]er, me? {blush} you’d want my pics even though Eric has excellent videos?
Actually, as I was laying there heating up the first bolt, I thought about taking pictures and decided no one would want them. Now that said, I think one of the front ring seals fell out and I may need to pull the whole thing down to get the seal back in. (noticed some smoke coming up from the header) Prolly will use the extra set of steel OEM ring seals if I do. If you think it would be of value, I could mock up the old pipe and catch some snaps of the process? Certainly the re-install will be the same.
I do have a full set from the thermostat replacement – if that would be of any use. Also planned on a full set for the radiator replacement.
With so many good videos of Eric’s can’t see how some still photos would help? But hey, if it does, I’m glad to contribute as a thanks for what I have been able to learn here.
[quote=”barneyb” post=122654]The buildup on the neck of the thermostat housing is just due to the hose connection there leaking for a long time. The housing doesn’t look so good but since you got it to seal, good enough. [/quote]
I wonder if the interaction with oxygen on the outside is the reason for the severe corrosion on the outside surfaces of the thermostat cover? Seems to me like the erosion was deeper on the outside than the inside surfaces. Might be another reason to fix leaks? (avoid corrosion)
Funny thing is that I had a shop pressure test the cooling system after doing the water pump. They mentioned a radiator leak and said nothing about leaks at the thermostat. Sigh.
[quote=”barneyb” post=122654]All the thermostat needs is the rubber gasket to seal.[/quote]
Again, wondering why there is a gasket or permatex on the downstream side?
[quote=”barneyb” post=122654]The buildup on the neck of the thermostat housing is just due to the hose connection there leaking for a long time. The housing doesn’t look so good but since you got it to seal, good enough. [/quote]
I wonder if the interaction with oxygen on the outside is the reason for the severe corrosion on the outside surfaces of the thermostat cover? Seems to me like the erosion was deeper on the outside than the inside surfaces. Might be another reason to fix leaks? (avoid corrosion)
Funny thing is that I had a shop pressure test the cooling system after doing the water pump. They mentioned a radiator leak and said nothing about leaks at the thermostat. Sigh.
[quote=”barneyb” post=122654]All the thermostat needs is the rubber gasket to seal.[/quote]
Again, wondering why there is a gasket or permatex on the downstream side?
[quote=”ukrkoz” post=122645]
Black crud is likely cheap rubber seal deteriorated. Especially if you had not quite oil resistant seal.[/quote]
Wonder who put a second seal on the downstream side of the thermostat? Is this standard practice for techs?
[quote=”ukrkoz” post=122645]
If I were you, I’d have had ALL hoses to rad replaced. They have plenty of crud inside and are ballooning from age and temperature. They WILL leak.
Same time, replace all those fancy clamps with hose warn gear clamps. 2 per each connection, for wide tight seal. Be careful tightening them. I did crack aluminum neck once simply doing that. Hose clamps are inexpensive and plentiful anywhere. [/quote]Thanks good advice. I plan on doing that when I replace the radiator. But that will take care of some of the crud. Can only imagine how much crud is in the rest of the engine, heater, etc.
[quote=”ukrkoz” post=122645]Won’t hurt to flush it all with water and some calcium deposit solvent. I think they are all about same and automotive simply cost more. Read what it says under active ingredient, then compare prices.[/quote]
Are you saying i could use something like CLR in there?
[quote=”ukrkoz” post=122645]
Black crud is likely cheap rubber seal deteriorated. Especially if you had not quite oil resistant seal.[/quote]
Wonder who put a second seal on the downstream side of the thermostat? Is this standard practice for techs?
[quote=”ukrkoz” post=122645]
If I were you, I’d have had ALL hoses to rad replaced. They have plenty of crud inside and are ballooning from age and temperature. They WILL leak.
Same time, replace all those fancy clamps with hose warn gear clamps. 2 per each connection, for wide tight seal. Be careful tightening them. I did crack aluminum neck once simply doing that. Hose clamps are inexpensive and plentiful anywhere. [/quote]Thanks good advice. I plan on doing that when I replace the radiator. But that will take care of some of the crud. Can only imagine how much crud is in the rest of the engine, heater, etc.
[quote=”ukrkoz” post=122645]Won’t hurt to flush it all with water and some calcium deposit solvent. I think they are all about same and automotive simply cost more. Read what it says under active ingredient, then compare prices.[/quote]
Are you saying i could use something like CLR in there?
The rest of the pictures….
Inside of thermostat housing
Cleaned up housing and seat for gasket
Drilling out the broken bolt
Severe pitting on the thermostat cover
Finished repair – no leaks!
Comments? Suggestions? Lashes with a wet noodle?
The rest of the pictures….
Inside of thermostat housing
Cleaned up housing and seat for gasket
Drilling out the broken bolt
Severe pitting on the thermostat cover
Finished repair – no leaks!
Comments? Suggestions? Lashes with a wet noodle?
No Eric, THANK YOU for all you are doing! This is one of the best resources out there!
Good to see you are so excited with many idea of what you want to and could do! Just hope the work load doesn’t turn into burn out or health issues!
..and thanks again!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours!
No Eric, THANK YOU for all you are doing! This is one of the best resources out there!
Good to see you are so excited with many idea of what you want to and could do! Just hope the work load doesn’t turn into burn out or health issues!
..and thanks again!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours!
OK, have not forgotten this thread or the kind advice offered! Finally got all of the parts delivered and am lined up to do the replacement. Went with the OEM Denso radiator, new hoses and 1/2 new clamps. Oh and an new OEM thermostat! {more on that nightmare in another post}
After watching Eric’s two videos on radiator replacement, and looking at the car in detail, I think I can get the radiator with the fans attached out of the car in one piece- similar to what was done with the Civic. I think the crux will be bungee-cording the A/C hoses up against the engine bock [exhaust manifold cover] and out of the way – looks like a bunch of room down in there.
When I get the corrosion issues decided, then we’ll pull the radiator.
So my apologies for not reporting back sooner, and ask for more patience as I get to the repair in due course.
