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  • in reply to: Rubber hose stuck in the spark plug hole! HELP! #518061
    JoeJoe
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      I’m not sure exactly how far you are in the job, but could you rotate the engine to get the piston a bit further down in the cylinder, maybe it would give you a better shot at grabbing the end of the hose?

      in reply to: Rubber hose stuck in the spark plug hole! HELP! #520418
      JoeJoe
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        I’m not sure exactly how far you are in the job, but could you rotate the engine to get the piston a bit further down in the cylinder, maybe it would give you a better shot at grabbing the end of the hose?

        in reply to: Rubber hose stuck in the spark plug hole! HELP! #520408
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          One of these ‘parts grabbers’, as pictured here would work possibly.
          http://shop.reversingcamerasuk.com/WebRoot/Store/Shops/es106294_shop/482D/E57D/7AA8/77AC/9AA1/50ED/8971/DCCD/grabber_0020_end.JPG

          Maybe a wire coat hanger straightened out with a small hook bent in the end? Maybe with some double sided tape wrapped around it?

          They also make some surgical forceps that would work great, but would probably be hard to find and expensive.

          http://www.bizrice.com/products/Esophageal-Biopsy-Forceps.html

          in reply to: Rubber hose stuck in the spark plug hole! HELP! #518046
          JoeJoe
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            One of these ‘parts grabbers’, as pictured here would work possibly.
            http://shop.reversingcamerasuk.com/WebRoot/Store/Shops/es106294_shop/482D/E57D/7AA8/77AC/9AA1/50ED/8971/DCCD/grabber_0020_end.JPG

            Maybe a wire coat hanger straightened out with a small hook bent in the end? Maybe with some double sided tape wrapped around it?

            They also make some surgical forceps that would work great, but would probably be hard to find and expensive.

            http://www.bizrice.com/products/Esophageal-Biopsy-Forceps.html

            in reply to: Is Flat Rate Fair? #520269
            JoeJoe
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              Hey guys, I’ve got a slightly different perspective on this situation.

              I am a service writer at a Mazda dealer with around 6 techs who are paid flat rate. I was previously a service writer at an independent dealer. I saw a HUGE change in the attitudes and productivity of technicians with my new job.

              I had a good relationship with my co-workers at both locations, so what I’m about to say is nothing personal towards the guys, just what I observed.

              At my previous job (Hourly techs), when I walked out to the shop with a repair order, I was bringing them work, not money. And they acted this way. Tech A wouldn’t want it, he’d say give it to Tech B. They would argue about who had to do it. When the work got started, if it was a dropoff, they had a tendency to milk the job for all it’s worth. A 3 hour timing belt job would have one of my mechanics out ALL DAY. They would do this selectively, so they could get away with it. These guys made good money, ranging from 17/hr to 24/hr.

              At my current job (Flat rate techs), there is a drop box on the side of the shop foreman’s toolbox. I walk outside, drop a RO in there, say nothing, walk back up front. That vehicle will be getting pulled in within 5-10 minutes. Why? Because the technicians want to get paid. I’m bringing them money on those RO’s, not just work. I am lucky, and have some great techs that do quality work to the best of their abilities. No cutting corners where it counts, no wiping off oil filters, anything like that.

              We have all full lifts, no quick lube bay or pit. Our techs do our oil changes. Oil changes pay .4hrs. It takes about ~30-45 min to get one done after racking and our ‘full inspection’. The techs inform me of work needed to the vehicle, brakes, tires, cabin filters, whatever, and I do my hardest to upsell those services so we can turn a .4hr job into a 1.5-2hr job and make everyone a bit of money.

              Our techs work about 40hrs a week and flag, usually, 45-50hrs.

              Flag rate, at our dealership, works in my opinion. It’s fair for all parties involved. Is it perfect? No, but in my eyes, it’s a better solution than straight hourly.

              in reply to: Is Flat Rate Fair? #517917
              JoeJoe
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                Hey guys, I’ve got a slightly different perspective on this situation.

                I am a service writer at a Mazda dealer with around 6 techs who are paid flat rate. I was previously a service writer at an independent dealer. I saw a HUGE change in the attitudes and productivity of technicians with my new job.

                I had a good relationship with my co-workers at both locations, so what I’m about to say is nothing personal towards the guys, just what I observed.

                At my previous job (Hourly techs), when I walked out to the shop with a repair order, I was bringing them work, not money. And they acted this way. Tech A wouldn’t want it, he’d say give it to Tech B. They would argue about who had to do it. When the work got started, if it was a dropoff, they had a tendency to milk the job for all it’s worth. A 3 hour timing belt job would have one of my mechanics out ALL DAY. They would do this selectively, so they could get away with it. These guys made good money, ranging from 17/hr to 24/hr.

                At my current job (Flat rate techs), there is a drop box on the side of the shop foreman’s toolbox. I walk outside, drop a RO in there, say nothing, walk back up front. That vehicle will be getting pulled in within 5-10 minutes. Why? Because the technicians want to get paid. I’m bringing them money on those RO’s, not just work. I am lucky, and have some great techs that do quality work to the best of their abilities. No cutting corners where it counts, no wiping off oil filters, anything like that.

                We have all full lifts, no quick lube bay or pit. Our techs do our oil changes. Oil changes pay .4hrs. It takes about ~30-45 min to get one done after racking and our ‘full inspection’. The techs inform me of work needed to the vehicle, brakes, tires, cabin filters, whatever, and I do my hardest to upsell those services so we can turn a .4hr job into a 1.5-2hr job and make everyone a bit of money.

                Our techs work about 40hrs a week and flag, usually, 45-50hrs.

                Flag rate, at our dealership, works in my opinion. It’s fair for all parties involved. Is it perfect? No, but in my eyes, it’s a better solution than straight hourly.

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