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First off let me say that Eric is Amazing ! His videos and everything he does is A+++ because it is authentic.
Now back to business. So many shops are losing and closing in Canada. Why ? Because the people are TRASH. LAZY PIECES OF GARBAGE that want money and seem to believe that people should sit back and be robbed. The Dealerships are fraud just like the Corner Shops. Lazy incompetent people who figure people owe them something. Today I am actually Excited to see these people go under. Robbing people has to come to an end. I’m at a stage where I will not let me Vehicle go into any shop period because NO ONE CAN BE TRUSTED. People don’t want to go over the work that they have done when it’s their fault. Like WTF are people to do ……
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What is your reasoning behind the statement that all shops are ripping people off?
Why do you think dealers are frauds?
[quote=”drthrift035″ post=141197]First off let me say that Eric is Amazing ! His videos and everything he does is A+++ because it is authentic.
Now back to business. So many shops are losing and closing in Canada. Why ? Because the people are TRASH. LAZY PIECES OF GARBAGE that want money and seem to believe that people should sit back and be robbed. The Dealerships are fraud just like the Corner Shops. Lazy incompetent people who figure people owe them something. Today I am actually Excited to see these people go under. Robbing people has to come to an end. I’m at a stage where I will not let me Vehicle go into any shop period because NO ONE CAN BE TRUSTED. People don’t want to go over the work that they have done when it’s their fault. Like WTF are people to do ……[/quote]
Don’t be so evasive and ambiguous. Tell us how you really feel.
Based on my personal experience. I how places like ACTIVE GREEN & ROSS, FORD, TOYOTA ETC function. You bring your vehicle in and the used certain ploys to suck money from you. For example low cost Oil Changes to tell you that you need to change all these parts on your vehicle which is often not true. Why because they want money. Supposedly when they fix the vehicle you have the same problem resurface soon after and they are ready to suck more money.
I once paid $1,230 for a tune up and less than 3 weeks later the problem resurfaced. The DEALERSHIP wanted more money to look it over and it was their fault for not doing the job right. They did not change all of the spark plugs, coils etc. That is just one instance. Check this out. You have to be a PIECE OF GARBAGE if you do stuff like that. When you work on the same type of vehicles all day at a dealership and you still F*** Up. Come on. Crooks are Crooks simple as that. The level of Mechanics here is Super Low and their greed is Super High.
[quote=”drthrift035″ post=141257]Based on my personal experience. I how places like ACTIVE GREEN & ROSS, FORD, TOYOTA ETC function. You bring your vehicle in and the used certain ploys to suck money from you. For example low cost Oil Changes to tell you that you need to change all these parts on your vehicle which is often not true. Why because they want money. Supposedly when they fix the vehicle you have the same problem resurface soon after and they are ready to suck more money.
I once paid $1,230 for a tune up and less than 3 weeks later the problem resurfaced. The DEALERSHIP wanted more money to look it over and it was their fault for not doing the job right. They did not change all of the spark plugs, coils etc. That is just one instance. Check this out. You have to be a PIECE OF GARBAGE if you do stuff like that. When you work on the same type of vehicles all day at a dealership and you still F*** Up. Come on. Crooks are Crooks simple as that. The level of Mechanics here is Super Low and their greed is Super High.[/quote]
So you’re excited to see businesses you have never patronized go out of business because you had a bad experience at another business? Sounds legit to me…
Thanks for listening every one. Thanks for posting the Videos Eric to my Rant. I was Angered. Truth be told Eric is one of a kind and the many people who help out on the SITE. It just bothers me to the core. When people pay money and get ripped off. It’s just not right. Up here in Canada the Automotive Culture is just filled with Crooks. It’s hard to find decent people to work on your vehicle. Thanks again for listening.
[quote=”notoriousDUG” post=141282][quote=”drthrift035″ post=141257]Based on my personal experience. I how places like ACTIVE GREEN & ROSS, FORD, TOYOTA ETC function. You bring your vehicle in and the used certain ploys o suck money from you. For example low cost Oil Changes to tell you that you need to change all these parts on your vehicle which is often not true. Why because they want money. Supposedly when they fix the vehicle you have the same problem resurface soon after and they are ready to suck more money.
I once paid $1,230 for a tune up and less than 3 weeks later the problem resurfaced. The DEALERSHIP wanted more money to look it over and it was their fault for not doing the job right. They did not change all of the spark plugs, coils etc. That is just one instance. Check this out. You have to be a PIECE OF GARBAGE if you do stuff like that. When you work on the same type of vehicles all day at a dealership and you still F*** Up. Come on. Crooks are Crooks simple as that. The level of Mechanics here is Super Low and their greed is Super High.[/quote]
So you’re excited to see businesses you have never patronized go out of business because you had a bad experience at another business? Sounds legit to me…[/quote]
What I ment was that I am Excited to see Crooks LOSE. No Decent Business deserves to get shut down. However the the Crooks deserve it and I will always celebrate that.
Frauds are frauds you will see them in every kind of business especially when there is little to no chance of the customer knowing how to do what they are doing.
I work in a dealership and I can tell you not everyone there is the sharpest tool in the shed. Also you never know if the guy(s) that normally does that work was out sick or what not. Some places are setup for 1-2 guys per model. Ours was/is kinda setup that way. We had one guy that all he did was buses. Any time there was a bus he got it. Then he left and it took 3-4 months for people to get decent at working in such cramped spaces.
I am not saying it is right. I am saying crap happens. If they are frauds its only a matter of time before they get shut down. There are many places like that and they never last more then 5 yrs normally. So my suggestion to you is an independent garage that has been around 10+yrs. Normally they have the really bad techs weeded out though you may still get a new guy who might not know enough but, you are a hell of a lot less likely to have problems.
Thanks MDK22 for your time and insight ! I understand what you are saying. Today I feel a lot better about things thanks to everyone who has responded to my concern. I just like how people on here are ready to get to the bottom of things.
[quote=”drthrift035″ post=141197]I’m at a stage where I will not let me Vehicle go into any shop period because NO ONE CAN BE TRUSTED. People don’t want to go over the work that they have done….[/quote]
I was at that stage before I even got my first car. I didn’t even want to get into driving because of what I quoted you saying. When I was given my first car, I felt forced/obligated to learn how to fix anything on it so I wouldn’t have to bring it to a shop and get raked through the coals over repairs I didn’t understand. That is why I learned enough to become a professional and now I make money from vehicle owners who chose not to deal with their own car problems and instead prefer to pay others to do so. The dealer I work for is actually pretty nice. If a reasonable or good customer can’t quite afford a repair they need, they will usually offer to negotiate a lower price instead of just telling them to piss off.
Just for the record, I still don’t trust mechanics. Whenever a car owner says someone told them (whatever) is wrong with their car, I automatically don’t believe them. I recently diagnosed an electrical problem in under an hour, on a car that had been at another shop for a month and $700 was spent throwing parts at it. The incompetence that claims to be professional is pretty disgusting.
I still check lights on cars myself using a prop rod for the brake pedal, even though the standard practice is to stay in the car to run the lights and call another guy over to look at them an tell you if they are ok.
To be fair, the less than professional attitude is rife throughout the service business world. Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers. The uninformed consumer is easy prey for these predators.
The customer is largely to blame. It’s ironic, in the “information age” when people have instant access to more knowledge than at any other time in human history, that people in general are so ignorant about the things they own and how to maintain and repair them. We are no longer masters of our technology, we simply consume it without understanding it and blindly depend on others to keep it chugging along.
[quote=”Evil-i” post=141422]The customer is largely to blame. It’s ironic, in the “information age” when people have instant access to more knowledge than at any other time in human history, that people in general are so ignorant about the things they own and how to maintain and repair them. We are no longer masters of our technology, we simply consume it without understanding it and blindly depend on others to keep it chugging along.[/quote]
Very well said.For as long as I can remember, I’ve had the attitude that if I don’t understand something, I shouldn’t have it. I’ve spent my whole life wondering what drives the monumental ignorance around me, and I’ve gotten to the point where I spend a lot of time studying it and trying to understand why it’s socially acceptable. I hate the feeling of my own ignorance, and it constantly drives me to study and understand things that give me that feeling.
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