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    jimjim
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sGdEscComM

      Anyone know why my car is starting like that? I primed the fuel pump in the video and it starts rough the first time, but it starts completely fine the second time. It only starts rough on warm starts. Cold starts it starts right up fine.

      What I’ve done: new ngk laser platinum spark plugs, new fuel pump, new crank and cam sensors

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    • #652941
      Gary BrownGary
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        Have you checked for vacuum leaks?

        #652942
        jimjim
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          [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
          No I have not

          #652943
          Gary BrownGary
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            [quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
            No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?

            #652944
            James O'HaraJames O’Hara
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              Have you checked the battery?
              Did you gap the plugs before installing them?

              #652946
              jimjim
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                [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though

                #652948
                Gary BrownGary
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                  [quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                  No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                  Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                  [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                  Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                  My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?

                  #652950
                  jimjim
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                    [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                    No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                    Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                    [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                    Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                    My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                    Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.

                    #652951
                    Gary BrownGary
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                      [quote=”jimv” post=125775][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                      No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                      Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                      [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                      Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                      My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                      Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.[/quote] Ok, so clear something up for me here, did you fix the original problems? Did you ever determine the cause of the misfire? There seems to be more to this. Just swapping coils around without replacing the defective coil would cause the misfire to move to the respective cylinder typically.

                      #652953
                      jimjim
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                        [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125776][quote=”jimv” post=125775][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                        No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                        Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                        [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                        Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                        My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                        Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.[/quote] Ok, so clear something up for me here, did you fix the original problems? Did you ever determine the cause of the misfire? There seems to be more to this. Just swapping coils around without replacing the defective coil would cause the misfire to move to the respective cylinder typically.[/quote]

                        Sorry! I should have told you i did fix them, i replaced the catalytic converter and bought 2 new spark plug boots for the 2 cylinders that were misfiring when i swapped them around. I haven’t gotten a misfire since

                        #652954
                        Gary BrownGary
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                          [quote=”jimv” post=125778][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125776][quote=”jimv” post=125775][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                          No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                          Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                          [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                          Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                          My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                          Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.[/quote] Ok, so clear something up for me here, did you fix the original problems? Did you ever determine the cause of the misfire? There seems to be more to this. Just swapping coils around without replacing the defective coil would cause the misfire to move to the respective cylinder typically.[/quote]

                          Sorry! I should have told you i did fix them, i replaced the catalytic converter and bought 2 new spark plug boots for the 2 cylinders that were misfiring when i swapped them around. I haven’t gotten a misfire since[/quote] No worries, just tryin to get the lay of the land here with the situation. It will allow us to help you better. What year is the Sentra? My feel is that it’s a fuel or electrical issue.

                          #652955
                          jimjim
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                            [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125779][quote=”jimv” post=125778][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125776][quote=”jimv” post=125775][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                            No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                            Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                            [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                            Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                            My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                            Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.[/quote] Ok, so clear something up for me here, did you fix the original problems? Did you ever determine the cause of the misfire? There seems to be more to this. Just swapping coils around without replacing the defective coil would cause the misfire to move to the respective cylinder typically.[/quote]

                            Sorry! I should have told you i did fix them, i replaced the catalytic converter and bought 2 new spark plug boots for the 2 cylinders that were misfiring when i swapped them around. I haven’t gotten a misfire since[/quote] No worries, just tryin to get the lay of the land here with the situation. It will allow us to help you better. What year is the Sentra? My feel is that it’s a fuel or electrical issue.[/quote]

                            2005 1.8l base and about 181k miles on it

                            #652957
                            Gary BrownGary
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                              [quote=”jimv” post=125780][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125779][quote=”jimv” post=125778][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125776][quote=”jimv” post=125775][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                              No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                              Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                              [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                              Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                              My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                              Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.[/quote] Ok, so clear something up for me here, did you fix the original problems? Did you ever determine the cause of the misfire? There seems to be more to this. Just swapping coils around without replacing the defective coil would cause the misfire to move to the respective cylinder typically.[/quote]

                              Sorry! I should have told you i did fix them, i replaced the catalytic converter and bought 2 new spark plug boots for the 2 cylinders that were misfiring when i swapped them around. I haven’t gotten a misfire since[/quote] No worries, just tryin to get the lay of the land here with the situation. It will allow us to help you better. What year is the Sentra? My feel is that it’s a fuel or electrical issue.[/quote]

                              2005 1.8l base and about 181k miles on it[/quote] Ah gotcha. Have you tested fuel pressure? Also, have you checked the fuel pressure regulator? The regulators are a common part to go bad.

                              #652958
                              jimjim
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                                [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125782][quote=”jimv” post=125780][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125779][quote=”jimv” post=125778][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125776][quote=”jimv” post=125775][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125773][quote=”jimv” post=125771][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125768][quote=”jimv” post=125767][quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125766]Have you checked for vacuum leaks?[/quote]
                                No I have not[/quote] I would start with a visual inspection under the hood. Make sure all connections electrical and vacuum wise look ok. It may be the TPS or IAC. Did this problem start before or after the new sensors?[/quote]

                                Well I have been under the hood and I don’t hear any hissing noises and everything seemed connected properly. This problem started before the new sensors

                                [quote=”MDK22″ post=125769]Have you checked the battery?
                                Did you gap the plugs before installing them?[/quote]

                                My battery is relatively new and connections are good. I have not gapped my spark plugs though[/quote] Check the gaps of the plugs. However if the problem started before the plug change as well then gapping the plugs may not solve it. Have you checked for history codes?[/quote]

                                Yeah it was happening before i changed the plugs as well, and the only codes that I’ve ever got on it was a bad catalytic converter and some misfiring, i swapped around some coil packs and that went away.[/quote] Ok, so clear something up for me here, did you fix the original problems? Did you ever determine the cause of the misfire? There seems to be more to this. Just swapping coils around without replacing the defective coil would cause the misfire to move to the respective cylinder typically.[/quote]

                                Sorry! I should have told you i did fix them, i replaced the catalytic converter and bought 2 new spark plug boots for the 2 cylinders that were misfiring when i swapped them around. I haven’t gotten a misfire since[/quote] No worries, just tryin to get the lay of the land here with the situation. It will allow us to help you better. What year is the Sentra? My feel is that it’s a fuel or electrical issue.[/quote]

                                2005 1.8l base and about 181k miles on it[/quote] Ah gotcha. Have you tested fuel pressure? Also, have you checked the fuel pressure regulator? The regulators are a common part to go bad.[/quote]

                                Have not checked fuel pressure. I had the same notion that it could be the fuel pressure regulator but do you think it would cause it to start like that?

                                #652959
                                Gary BrownGary
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                                  To keep that quote thing from getting longer I’m gonna start a new reply here. Anyways, if the regulator has an issue it is possible that it is causing or at least contributing to the problem. I would start by testing the prime fuel pressure and then proceed to test the fuel pressure when running. This will help rule out a fuel issue if it is in spec. It will also verify proper regulator operation. Throwing parts at the car without testing is an expensive endeavor which we don’t want you to go through if you don’t have to.

                                  #652960
                                  jimjim
                                  Participant

                                    [quote=”Chevyman21″ post=125784]To keep that quote thing from getting longer I’m gonna start a new reply here. Anyways, if the regulator has an issue it is possible that it is causing or at least contributing to the problem. I would start by testing the prime fuel pressure and then proceed to test the fuel pressure when running. This will help rule out a fuel issue if it is in spec. It will also verify proper regulator operation. Throwing parts at the car without testing is an expensive endeavor which we don’t want you to go through if you don’t have to.[/quote]

                                    gotcha, gonna be looking at the fuel pressure video on the ETCG channel then

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