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  • #457075
    tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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      Hi everyone.
      i am currently working on a VS commodore (its a v6 ecotec) the motor has been leaking water profusely, today i did a little more investigating and found that it was leaking from the top of the motor it seems there is a little hole under the intake manifold. i was wondering if this is able to be fixed or would i be wasting my time trying to repair the leak??

      need urgent help!
      all replies are welcome

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    • #457076
      ChrisR1987ChrisR1987
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        From what youre describing it sounds like you have a blown intake gasket tho the commodores Im very unfamiliar with so Im not sure how muck work it would take to get it fixed

        #457077
        tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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          thanks chris,
          im not sure if i explained clearly but theres actually a hole leaking out from metal under the intake itself, its REALLY pouring out, i can actually watch it sperting out. im really new to the forum but can i upload a photo and show you?

          #457078
          ChrisR1987ChrisR1987
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            Im not sure on the photo upload but if its below the intake and if memory serves me right youve got a hole in the block itself which pretty much means engine replacement but again with my lack of knowledge in commodores Im not sure.

            #457079
            tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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              you know, now that i think about it, it could be a part of the intake manifold itself, im thinking if i disassemble it, maybe it could be replaced. think i’ll give it a crack tomorrow in the daylight.
              thanks for your help, chris 🙂

              #457080
              John B KobberstadJohn B Kobberstad
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                Could it be a freeze plug rusting out? That can be replaced. I’m not familiar with that vehicle either.

                #457081
                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  Sounds like you will have to disassemble it to put your eyes on the problem, at least you know where to look. Keep us posted.

                  #457082
                  tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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                    hey guys, i pulled the top of the motor off today and found the problem, it was the air intake manifold that had corroded through, i can supply some photos to show you guys exactly what it was if you like!

                    thanks for the help everyone! 🙂

                    #457083
                    tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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                      sorry guys, im australian, the car im talking about is a.. i think its a chevrolet, i do know the motor is made by GM
                      they are called Holden Commodores over here.

                      #457084
                      99_XC60099_XC600
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                        Quoted From tehsnoodie:

                        sorry guys, im australian, the car im talking about is a.. i think its a chevrolet, i do know the motor is made by GM
                        they are called Holden Commodores over here.

                        I’m willing to bet this is a 3800 Series V6 with the plastic upper intake manifold. If it is, this is a common problem. The EGR “Smoke Stack” runs through the intake manifold. Over time it gets hot, and will melt the seal and plastic, resulting in a coolant leak. You will also want to replace the LIM gaskets while you’re in there. The GM Dexcool has a habit of eating the plastic gaskets that were used and will produce another coolant leak.

                        If this is indeed the case, I would highly suggest you subscribe to this forum http://www.grandprixforums.net/general-tech-discussion/ It has a ton of information on the 3800 based cars.

                        Here is a great video, that reviews the process.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZjEKSqR5Qg

                        My daily driver is 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GT1

                        #457085
                        pcmdjasonpcmdjason
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                          Please give us the year and engine size. Many Holdens are renamed Chevrolet, Vauxhall or Daewoo cars so some of us may know of the car in our country by another name.

                          #457086
                          pcmdjasonpcmdjason
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                            ok I did some research. This model was made from 1995 to 97 and t uses a Buick 3800 series II rwd engine. It looks like a Pontiac with a Buick butt

                            #457087
                            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                              That’s unfortunate, thanks for the update and feel free to post pics I’d love to see that.

                              #457089
                              EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                That’s very unfortunate, thanks for posting the pics they really help illustrate the issue.

                                #457088
                                tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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                                  sorry it took so long for the reply, but heres the problem!

                                  NorthEast, you’re completely correct with everything you said in your post. it is the 3800 motor with the plastic cover. i will surely replace anything i can before i put the engine back together.
                                  this is the photo of the enginebay, just incase that gives you anymore hints, i can also upload a photo of the car if you like 🙂

                                  #457090
                                  tehsnoodietehsnoodie
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                                    getting the new intake manifold in the next week or so. so in the mean time i shall start sanding and preparing the body work of the car! 🙂

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