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    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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      Often overlooked but absolutely necessary, your tool expenses. Lets talk about it.

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    • #483102
      IulianEIulianE
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        I just bought this with 180$.Is very good quality.
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        #483105
        W00DBar0nW00DBar0n
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          You mentioned the tool box my company supplied. It is very rare for this to happen. The company i work for is trying to set a bench mark for my field and is putting a ton on the line. Every tech in the shop owns a full set of tools, but are all at home or in storage in my case. i hope people don’t go into the field expecting to get what i got i got lucky with this job.
          good luck to the new techs out there and hope they find good jobs and don’t have to invest an arm and a leg in tools.
          Ps. I still buy tools for my box just encased i move on from this shop.

          #483144
          Andy WhiteAndy White
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            Why do shops make the techs by the tools themselves instead of supplying them for the techs. This has always baffled me.

            #483154
            W00DBar0nW00DBar0n
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              [quote=”Boodieman72″ post=40706]Why do shops make the techs by the tools themselves instead of supplying them for the techs. This has always baffled me.[/quote]look at it this way, say you have 28techs so the company get 28 boxes full of tools. It works out to millions just for tools alone. Then add train, up keep, land fees, etc. Most auto shops can’t afford this i work for a company that just happens to be the largest cat dealer in the world.

              #483206
              BruceBruce
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                [quote=”Boodieman72″ post=40706]Why do shops make the techs by the tools themselves instead of supplying them for the techs. This has always baffled me.[/quote]

                My guess is it started back when the auto repair industry started. Probly so few tools needed it was no big deal to buy your own and it just never changed. Plus what man doesn’t want his own tools.

                IMO-If it doesn’t fit in a toolbox or is a rarely used special tool or it costs a lot it is a shop tool and should be purchased by the shop. Like jacks, jackstands, scantools, shop press, etc

                [quote=”W00DBar0n” post=40687]You mentioned the tool box my company supplied. It is very rare for this to happen. The company i work for is trying to set a bench mark for my field and is putting a ton on the line. Every tech in the shop owns a full set of tools, but are all at home or in storage in my case. i hope people don’t go into the field expecting to get what i got i got lucky with this job.
                good luck to the new techs out there and hope they find good jobs and don’t have to invest an arm and a leg in tools.
                Ps. I still buy tools for my box just encased i move on from this shop.[/quote]

                If I worked at a shop like that I think I would still want my own tools. Whats to say that job will always be there. I would hate it for somebody to start out in a shop like that and end up losing the job for whatever reason 5 or 10 years later. Be hard to find another one like it.

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                Andy WhiteAndy White
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                  [quote=”W00DBar0n” post=40711][quote=”Boodieman72″ post=40706]Why do shops make the techs by the tools themselves instead of supplying them for the techs. This has always baffled me.[/quote]look at it this way, say you have 28techs so the company get 28 boxes full of tools. It works out to millions just for tools alone. Then add train, up keep, land fees, etc. Most auto shops can’t afford this i work for a company that just happens to be the largest cat dealer in the world.[/quote]

                  But that’s a one time investment not an on going thing, other that special tools that are needed for new cars.

                  #483221
                  W00DBar0nW00DBar0n
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                    [quote=”Superman” post=40737]

                    If I worked at a shop like that I think I would still want my own tools. [/quote]
                    I said the same thing when i first heard about the supplied tools, but have you ever work shift work? I work 14 days a week with 14 days off. There are 6 shifts A, B, C, D, A/C and B/D. (The last two are 7/7 shifts)
                    A and C will do one shift of days and night together, and viscera for B and D.
                    By 2015 they want to have over 250 techs.
                    Could you imagine the amount of storage space need for 250 tool boxes, plus locks and so on? Do you trust everyone on your cross shift? do you trust everyone on you opposite shifts? Supplied tool boxes helps with this issue saves room, and less cost to the employee.
                    I am beginning to like these tools more and more. Plus since you use them all day you end up treating them like your own. At the end of our shift you see all the techs cleaning their tools, putting them in their spots and cleaning the boxes.

                    [quote=”Boodieman72″ post=40740]

                    But that’s a one time investment not an on going thing, other that special tools that are needed for new cars.[/quote]
                    You would think, maybe more people will follow in the coming years.

                    #483492
                    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                      [quote=”Boodieman72″ post=40706]Why do shops make the techs by the tools themselves instead of supplying them for the techs. This has always baffled me.[/quote]

                      Technicians are more like sub contractors than anything hence the reason they need to supply their own tools. It’s very rare to work in a place where tools are supplied.

                      #483507
                      SpawnedXSpawnedX
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                        Some dealerships are now providing built in tool boxes at their shops, but you still have to fill them with your own tools. Look at it this way, I would rather choose the tool brand and type I use and not trust that the guy hiring me didn’t just make the local HFs day. Plus pushing out a 6,000.00 box loaded with 50,000.00 of tools out the door when it’s time to leave sends a message to the owner. Because now he has to hope his next guy isn’t going to put his little Craftsman 306 tool set with box in that giant empty space and not be able to do half the jobs because he has no tools for it.

                        #484311
                        Steve W.Steve W.
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                          One thing I heard mentioned was about buying used tools. Good idea except when it comes to getting them replaced. I know one major tool company now requires you to show the original receipt before they will replace a broken/worn tool off the truck. Nothing like having them tell you they won’t replace a $2.00 “lifetime” socket when you have a $10,000.00 box with their name on it. 👿

                          #484453
                          BruceBruce
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                            Never been asked for a receipt from SnapOn or Mac drivers. Even found a rusted up SO wrench, told SO man that I found it and he gave me a new one.

                            #486836
                            MatthewMatthew
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                              I love buying tools. I would still buy tool regardless. Even if a shop gave me tools. Why? because the tools that I buy are Mine. I always try to buy new tools. That way I know were they have been and what they have been throw. Used tools mean just that. my opinion is your only as good as the tools you bring to the table. I feel like the best tech out there because I can get stuff done. Snap-on, Mac are my choice of tool brands.

                              #487331
                              dreamer2355dreamer2355
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                                You get what you pay for when it comes to tools. Just like automotive parts, cheap parts yield cheap results and same too with tools.

                                I have never broken any of my Snap On, Mac or Matco tools at work, only the ‘cheap’ branded tools i have bought in the past.

                                Having the better quality tools for me makes me life easier doing repairs knowing that my tools will not fail me or let me down in any way.

                                #487806
                                W00DBar0nW00DBar0n
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                                  So in an earlier post i talked about what my shifts are like and how many people will be working there. Well I got a picture of one of the other shops in the area(same company) and the tools boxes of people not on shift.

                                  This is one reason my branch supplies tools, one whole bay dedicated to tool boxes of people not working. Our shop is A LOT bigger then this shop so think about it.

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                                  JasonJason
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                                    Looking through my tool box, I have found many specialty tools that I had used at some point long ago. The frustrating part is not remembering what they were used for, and the fact that I will likely never need that forgotten tool again. Did those certain tools pay for themselves? Not likely.

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