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    Brendan PotashBrendan Potash
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      Hey everybody, I had JUST bought a used 2005 Subaru Forester with an Automatic tranny at 122,000 miles in pristine condition. Unfortunately, during my shakedown drive the next day, I noticed a slight shudder when starting off with a full lock right or left hand turn from a dead stop. Also, the shift from 2nd to 3rd has a very slight slip.

      –>YIKES!!! 🙁 The opinion from 2 owners on the Subaru owners forum was this was TORQUE BIND from the CENTER CLUTCH ASSEMBLY not releasing – hence, a stuck DUTY C SOLENOID. Their fix is to do 3 drain & fills of the transmission fluid within a week’s time to clear it out.
      –> The Subaru service manager snubbed the idea, claiming a complete replacement of the differential and/or center clutch assembly (I could not coax him to simply get in the car and judge for himself). $800 tab, that I don’t have, reduced to $325 by the dealership manager (that I don’t have-long expensive winter).
      –>What’s the real cure for this? What’s a 2 month cure for this (that’s when tourism & money starts again)? Thanks big gun!

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      college mancollege man
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        You could try the drain and refills. its cheap and easy.
        see if any improvement comes of it.

        http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-automotive-performance-issues

        http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-transmission-problems

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        Lorrin BarthLorrin Barth
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          I slight shudder I’d probably ignore. What’s going on with the transmission would be of more interest to me.

          #585366
          Brendan PotashBrendan Potash
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            Hi Thanks a heap for responding. I may just be a fussy new ScoobyDoo daddy. I’ve driven it a few days now on surface streets and the RT 90 Turnpike. There’s no noticeable problems going at speed, actually pretty quiet. I think I’ll just change out the transmission fluid to make sure it’s new Dextron III – the old stuff is obviously burnt. I’ll probably drain out the front and back differentials and refill with new spec’d lube. Still it’s good to have some other reassurance, so thank you!

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            Brendan PotashBrendan Potash
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              I really appreciate you responding, thanks. Like I told BarnyB, I may just be a fussy new ScoobyDoo daddy or a scaredy-cat. There’s no noticeable problems going at surface street and highway speeds, actually pretty quiet.

              This is where experience is the crucial tool. There’s an ever so slight “gear whine” in the back. This being a 2005, it’s a whole lot quieter than my dear old 2000 Forester that Bambi the deer destroyed in a suprise ambush 😆 . I agree with your advice. I think I’ll just change out the transmission fluid to make sure it’s new Dextron III – the old stuff is obviously burnt.

              There’s an mention on the Subaru forums to change the transmission fluid out 3 times within 1-2 weeks. This would, in theory, “unstick” something called a “transfer duty solenoid”. It’s a cheap fix if it’s true.

              I’ll probably also drain out the front and back differentials and refill with new spec’d lube. If you’ve got any general hot tips on the best way to do both operations, I think it’d be helpful to more than a few do-it-yourselfers. Again, I’m very very greatful for your thoughts and help. – Brendan

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              college mancollege man
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                [quote=”brendanpotash” post=93652]I really appreciate you responding, thanks. Like I told BarnyB, I may just be a fussy new ScoobyDoo daddy or a scaredy-cat. There’s no noticeable problems going at surface street and highway speeds, actually pretty quiet.

                This is where experience is the crucial tool. There’s an ever so slight “gear whine” in the back. This being a 2005, it’s a whole lot quieter than my dear old 2000 Forester that Bambi the deer destroyed in a suprise ambush 😆 . I agree with your advice. I think I’ll just change out the transmission fluid to make sure it’s new Dextron III – the old stuff is obviously burnt.

                There’s an mention on the Subaru forums to change the transmission fluid out 3 times within 1-2 weeks. This would, in theory, “unstick” something called a “transfer duty solenoid”. It’s a cheap fix if it’s true.

                I’ll probably also drain out the front and back differentials and refill with new spec’d lube. If you’ve got any general hot tips on the best way to do both operations, I think it’d be helpful to more than a few do-it-yourselfers. Again, I’m very very greatful for your thoughts and help. – Brendan[/quote]

                No problem. keep us posted on your progress. 🙂

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                Lorrin BarthLorrin Barth
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                  My wife’s ’04 WRX (which we bought used) came from the factory with a rear differential whine. Bad setup at the plant that built the differential according to the forums. This is apparent in the 60 mph range at coast or low load. The noise is not changing so I consider it a non-issue.

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                  EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                    Changing the fluid is not expensive or difficult. If it has the possibility of helping, I think it’s worth a try. Here’s some videos that may be helpful.

                    Good luck and keep us posted.

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