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July 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm #862317
So I’ve been trying to figure out why someone would use a synthetic blend oil over full synthetic and haven’t found anything to satisfy my curiosity on the web. Hoping someone can fill me in?
Also, how exactly does synthetic oil do a better job at cleaning/keeping an engine clean? Is it the additives or that it lasts longer so doesn’t break down as quick creating deposits?
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July 9, 2016 at 8:35 pm #862332
[quote=”myfavecoupe_” post=169719]So I’ve been trying to figure out why someone would use a synthetic blend oil over full synthetic and haven’t found anything to satisfy my curiosity on the web. Hoping someone can fill me in?
Also, how exactly does synthetic oil do a better job at cleaning/keeping an engine clean? Is it the additives or that it lasts longer so doesn’t break down as quick creating deposits?
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synthetic blend oil is usually cheaper to manufacturer there for cost usually less… because its not state synthetic oil.. its a mixture of regualor and synthetic oil… and doesnt have as stric meaning as synthetic oil.. so the complaines can move the numbers a little more in there blends… because its still a “BLEND” … Think about it as if you have 99% reg and 1% synthetic oil…. by definition is it a blend between both oils?? by definition its sorta a tasss up..
a lot of people make there own blends by my car uses 5qt I put 1qt of synthetic oil and 4qt of reg oil
now there might be some laws preventing you from you for advertising 99/1 calling it a blend that I dont know but basically in thiery thats itJuly 9, 2016 at 8:46 pm #862333[quote=”myfavecoupe_” post=169719]
Also, how exactly does synthetic oil do a better job at cleaning/keeping an engine clean? Is it the additives or that it lasts longer so doesn’t break down as quick creating deposits?
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synthetic oil can get in to more tight spots and is more of a true oil by definition sorta hard to elpain… more of a pure oil by define….. it can get more in to tight places the regualor there for lub it better… but cleaning the engine would be a stretch to say…. only thing is it would basically lub up the parts in the engine causing the loosing dirt to get off the parts… but I sorta dout it would do a supper good job at that… now you can use synthetic oil changes longer beween changing… but changing the oil more on a reg basis would clean it out more … thats my 2 centsJuly 9, 2016 at 9:25 pm #862339So why use a blend instead of just pure synthetic? Wouldn’t it not last as long if blended with conventional oil therefore defeating the purpose?
July 9, 2016 at 9:41 pm #862343There’s a market for blended oils because the price point is lower than the more expensive full synths. With a high-mileage engine that’s consuming a bit of oil, many owners still want a measure of synthetic oil’s potential benefits without paying full price. They’re paying a bit extra for their peace of mind.
July 9, 2016 at 9:43 pm #862344July 9, 2016 at 10:14 pm #862346Can a high mileage specific synthetic oil still seep out of worn seals or are the additives enough to stop that from happening?
Going by what people say that synthetic oils flow better and can start to seep out of older seals that wouldn’t otherwise with conventional oil
July 9, 2016 at 11:56 pm #862352[quote=”myfavecoupe_” post=169741]So why use a blend instead of just pure synthetic? Wouldn’t it not last as long if blended with conventional oil therefore defeating the purpose?[/quote]
like the other guy was saying its really price… but full synthetic also has some problems too and some advantages too… one bad thing is about synthetic oil is like when I put it in my 01 ford with about 70k miles… I used full synthetic I noticed the engine making more noises and I started to leak more around my oil pan gasket and my valve cover gasket too… thats one of the disadvantages of it but one of the advantages is that synthetic oil will not gel up as much in extram cold and much as conventional oil… for you saying detergents both reg oil and synthetic oil are req to have detergents in them by the USA EPA…. so by law they both have them but what you will need to figure out is what kinds and what amounts… which the oil company will not say because they say its a trade secret most likly… and not tell you…. so to answer your question companies want to save as much $$$ as they can.. so the reg oil and synthetic oil both might have the same and same level of detergents… so cleaning factor could be the exact same
here is a site that tells you the diffrence between https://mobiloil.com/en/article/car-maintenance/learn-about-motor-oil-facts/types-of-synthetic-oil
July 10, 2016 at 12:16 am #862353[quote=”myfavecoupe_” post=169748]Can a high mileage specific synthetic oil still seep out of worn seals or are the additives enough to stop that from happening?
Going by what people say that synthetic oils flow better and can start to seep out of older seals that wouldn’t otherwise with conventional oil[/quote]
“additives enough to stop that from happening?” most of that is re-conditioners no sealers so it might help but might not to much..
here is you guy’s want to check this out he gets in to some details explaining the chemical differences between them and difference between oils… very interesting
July 10, 2016 at 2:51 am #862359Does anyone here have any feelings towards Lucas oil stabilizer, specifically Lucas full synthetic 10130, or other similar products which try to reduce oil dryness/starvation during cold starts?
July 10, 2016 at 4:05 am #862367[quote=”redsabre94″ post=169761]Does anyone here have any feelings towards Lucas oil stabilizer, specifically Lucas full synthetic 10130, or other similar products which try to reduce oil dryness/starvation during cold starts?[/quote]
Lucas oil stabilizer I did an oil change one time in the winter it was like 20F outside and I left the bottle outside the night before, I was like ok so its a little bit colder so I might have to push it out… so I did my oil change anyway… and at the middle I tryed to add it…. man its thick when its cold… I was proing it down in the funnel and it look like 10 mins … no kidding 10 mins to go down the funnel before I could add some more of it… it took me at least like 50 mins to get it in my car… so it is very thick is cold weather… so my thoughts I dont know about anyone else is… but if it gets very cold in your winter I probly wouldn’t install it in the winter because my thoughts is your pumps and stuff might have to work harder and the viscosity is high but it does delute with oil so its up to you but in warmer weather I think its probably ok… it wil probably help to go it like every once and awhile… thats my thoughts
I haven’t see them making oil it self so I don’t know anything about there oil.. this is the first I have see it in that aspectJuly 10, 2016 at 4:30 am #862371My main seals have a small leak. Best bet is using conventional oil with re-conditioners then?
July 10, 2016 at 8:08 am #862390A leaky seal is gong to keep leaking no matter what oil you put in.
July 10, 2016 at 8:21 am #862391[quote=”myfavecoupe_” post=169772]My main seals have a small leak. Best bet is using conventional oil with re-conditioners then?[/quote]
I would stick with conventional oil…. synthetic might make it worst… re-conditioners will re-condition it making it more softer and more pliable… thats what re-condition is…. re-conditioners might make is more softer and help fill it in more but realistically re-conditioners will not help you with leaks… there are sealers that might help you but re-conditioners probably will not do much -
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