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We all know it, the tool trucks push it and technicians with exclusively Snap-on tools, coats, hats etc who bash anyone who uses anything but. This…to me is unacceptable. These people who push Snap-on they are more elitist than any other. I cannot say I have encountered a MAC, Matco, Cornwell or Craftsman elitist to the same degree. The Snap-on guys make it seem like their tools are forged of divine steel by Hephaestus himself. Look, Snap-on is no better than any other top tier tool brand out there. In fact, Snap-on is just as guilty of outsourcing and re-branding just like any other tool maker. At my previous workplace, the Snap-On truck guy was cool sure but I didn’t really buy much from him. Mainly bought from the SK truck. When you charge premium prices for a brand name that you can get with MAC, Matco, or Cornwell for much cheaper, I feel obliged to go to the “underdogs”. Elitism is not a good thing. I know some people on here prefer Snap-On and that’s fine but being exclusive to one brand because it is “the best” is not healthy for you or your wallet. I have Snap-On tools, MAC tools, Gearwrench, Craftsman Pro, Craftsman and Dewalt. Being brand loyal is one thing, being a brand Elitist is another.
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I see k marks next to $ signs and I wonder wth people are thinking. As well as ,000. I dunno about you guys but I do not let my accounts get past $400 unless I immediately pay out like $100-200 dollars to drop it down to below $400. I also pay 10% of what I owe as a min. I pay every week. I have shelled out over $5k in 2yrs on tools but, owing someone any more then that seems just insane unless i bought a tool box or a modis or something. Even then.
Pay to play. Expensive insurance to make sure other techs don’t talk a bad line because one doesn’t have an Epiq box. Even a classic box might not be acceptable in most dealerships with young techs with credit lines maxed out. Its funny, they say it takes $30,000 minimum to have a basic set of tools, in yet i know several older guys that have been wrenching since the 50s, or 60s, and they have made it their entire careers with basic cheap hand tools, some older snap on, but other basic and cheap stuff they could afford and it wasn’t any thing even close to $30,000. These guys are wizards with minimal tools and are not lured by the sweet siren song of the tool truck, but young techs right out of UTI or other such places with Epiq boxes would laugh at these senior guys for not having 100 dollar snap on funnels, snap on toilet paper at 40 dollars a roll, gold plated snap on nail clippers, you get the idea. Don’t get me wrong, I love Snap on tools and do think they are the best, but that young guy tooltruck fanboy stuff also makes me sick after using cheap tools for decades. I have the worn hands to prove it too.
[quote=”andrewbutton442″ post=129752]Pay to play. Expensive insurance to make sure other techs don’t talk a bad line because one doesn’t have an Epiq box. Even a classic box might not be acceptable in most dealerships with young techs with credit lines maxed out. Its funny, they say it takes $30,000 minimum to have a basic set of tools, in yet i know several older guys that have been wrenching since the 50s, or 60s, and they have made it their entire careers with basic cheap hand tools, some older snap on, but other basic and cheap stuff they could afford and it wasn’t any thing even close to $30,000. These guys are wizards with minimal tools and are not lured by the sweet siren song of the tool truck, but young techs right out of UTI or other such places with Epiq boxes would laugh at these senior guys for not having 100 dollar snap on funnels, snap on toilet paper at 40 dollars a roll, gold plated snap on nail clippers, you get the idea. Don’t get me wrong, I love Snap on tools and do think they are the best, but that young guy tooltruck fanboy stuff also makes me sick after using cheap tools for decades. I have the worn hands to prove it too.[/quote]
I totally agree.. I probably only have 7k invested (including my box and cart) and I feel that I can pretty much do anything I need to. All of my sockets are harbor freight and I do abuse them… Not one has broken yet and when one does, at least I want be waiting until next week to have snappy replace it…. They are seriously underrated sockets. On the other hand my tech angle torque wrench is absolutely awesome!!
7 grand worth of the right tools would fix most guys up. On the other hand, 7k worth of Snap on would get a junior starter set with 2 screwdrivers, a 1/4 drive dual 72 ratchet, 5 sockets, a hammer, and of course a hat. They would be nice quality though. I would like to procure some Snap on Commemortive gold plated Dale Earnhart Nascar special edition 100th anniversary limited production wrenches from snap on and use them on a cornhead in the mud during harvest time, in the rain just to make the SO fanboys cringe. Gotta run, the Pittsburgh truck is outside and I have to pick up a Central Pneumatic 68424 1/2 gun (the pourous potmetal hammers put less shock on fasteners)
[quote=”Chevyman21″ post=129421][quote=”andrewbutton442″ post=129419]I just bought a Matco distributor wrench off of Ebay. I got a better deal used than SO, and its not like its a high torque piece. Anyway, So still sells the same type of wrench, for more of course, here is one funny thing I did notice however. When I went back to price that Matco wrench new, they no longer sell it. What they have for a distributor wrench is the pile of doo that every other chain store has, which for my application does not work. Mac has the nice type as SO, but they are crazy expensive. I best most young techs today don’t even own distributor wrenches which is some cases are the ONLY thing that fits, unless of course somebody makes a tool from other pieces which is worse than having DongGongWang built tools.[/quote] I’ve got the MAC distributor wrench. It is quite nice. Most of the younger guys don’t have them for sure.[/quote]
I actually want to chime in, im not sure about the ‘ÿoung guys” in your shops or what not, but im only 27 and just started really wrenching on cars in general, and i have two distributor wrenches, why? simple I wrench on my cars and the 1995 F150 I have has a distributer in it and I will be hosed if I didn’t have the basic tools I need to fix my own truck…
as for the elitest crap, thats all it is is just pure unalterated BS, I have tools from when my grandpa (we call him Opa which is german) and all his tools came from WW2 and yes I get raged on by my friends who work for shops when they come over to get my help on there cars (one drives a 1960’s Ford mustang and the other IIRC drives another Ford I want to say its a Fairmont or something similar) and why do they ask for my help? because they know I can turn a wrench like no other (as they say) and can “solve issues very quickly with minimal fuss” but they always rag on my WW2 tools, but i look at them and say “they may be WW2 era tools that my Opa gave me BUT I would like to see you turn a wrench like me and fix your cars with a minimal amount of tools” I have maybe a total of 200 tools total (counting the tool kits that I got as christmas gifts and Bday gifts but I always go back to the WW2 era tools, why do I do this? simple they work, and I got them for the best price FREE yes I didn’t pay for them….and I still have some of what I feel are the BEST tools I could have.
remember the brand doesnt make the tool, its the quality that makes the brand, as long as the tool is a good quality and does what I need then that brand will earn MY money.
To all the replies, I almost want to become a total MAC elitist just to spite the SO guys lol. Seriously though you should see the monkeys on eBay scramble for SO tools. It’s almost hysterical. Some idiots were in a 25 bid bidding war over a BROKEN 1/4 INCH SO ratchet for crying out loud(sold for 31 bucks! they must be insane…the elitism is strong). MATCO, MAC and Cornwell don’t get the same attention…more deals for me.
The entire broken used dirty bashed Snap-on tools on ebay, makes no sense to me either. The other thing is that some of the stuff is actually MORE than going and buying off the truck. Hard to get a good deal with much there. The problem is that Mac and the the other brands have less listings. I did, however by a Matco distributor wrench from there. 12 bucks. No fanboys for Matco distributor wrenches.
[quote=”andrewbutton442″ post=129949]The entire broken used dirty bashed Snap-on tools on ebay, makes no sense to me either. The other thing is that some of the stuff is actually MORE than going and buying off the truck. Hard to get a good deal with much there. The problem is that Mac and the the other brands have less listings. I did, however by a Matco distributor wrench from there. 12 bucks. No fanboys for Matco distributor wrenches.[/quote] I got brand new MAC stuff for 50% off retail price there while the SO guys were going crazy over the used and abused tools. All the attention is on SO…even when there is brand new MAC stuff on there still in package sealed.
All I could say to myself was “dance monkeys dance!” while I came away with premium tools for a steal of a price.
A good deal could become not such a good deal if the SO fanboys peep in your box though. I have seen some super nice Mac sockets, I don’t have any, personally, but they are nice. Some of that Snap-on stuff on ebay should be thrown away its in such bad shape. Somehow I doubt a truck guy is going to replace broken crap from Ebay, which is what some bidders are assuming.
[quote=”andrewbutton442″ post=129953]A good deal could become not such a good deal if the SO fanboys peep in your box though. I have seen some super nice Mac sockets, I don’t have any, personally, but they are nice. Some of that Snap-on stuff on ebay should be thrown away its in such bad shape. Somehow I doubt a truck guy is going to replace broken crap from Ebay, which is what some bidders are assuming.[/quote] My friend, SO guys have already peeped in my box and asked me why I don’t have more SO…that ain’t nothin new. I don’t care at all what they think. MAC tools are great and just as nice and durable as SO. Why should I be ashamed to have them?
EDIT: Ya I don’t think they get it. They are buying a broken tool with no warranty. Kinda stupid if you ask me.
[quote=”andrewbutton442″ post=129419]….unless of course somebody makes a tool from other pieces which is worse than having DongGongWang built tools.[/quote]
The trick is to butcher the DongGongWang tools when an improvised tool needs to be built. No worries about nullifying expensive heat treatments when you’re cutting, grinding, and welding.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Snap-On-Tools-Ratcheting-Wrench-Lot-Metric-SAE-All-Flank-Drive-78PCS-/221702824536?hash=item339e84a258&item=221702824536&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr
Get a load of this boys lol, here we got 78 SO wrenches that are used and BROKEN and there are already 42 bids as I write this post with the highest bid for $622. Sure the open end still works but this is ridiculous no? I wonder how many bidders actually read the description. Also, so much for SO’s warranty the guy has these up for auction because they are broken and SO won’t honor the warranty. Craziness…I’m just in awe.
[quote=”andrewbutton442″ post=130005]are you bidding on them ? I cannot look at the link right now.[/quote] Your jokin right? Lol I wouldn’t pay .02 for that junk. I just posted that link because I came across it last night while looking at tools and saw the pure idiocy of some people. Why..why would anyone buy broken ratcheting wrenches other than the fact they say SO. Nevermind be willing to pay $622 for them….
Yea, I am just kiddin around. As I said, I cannot see the link. There are not that many good deals for SO on ebay that I have seen. Maybe something small and insigficant, like I found a black hardhandled wrench to adjust points for 10 bucks, but it would not have to have been a Snap on. Its old and beat up, but I didn’t pay more because it was an SO. Had it been a Mac or Matco, I wouldn’t have cared. Sears never had that tool, only trucks.
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