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Hey there
I have gotten myself into quite a big mess here. I have a 2003 Dodge Dakota 4.7l 2wd and I have completely obliterated one of the lug nuts on the driver side rear tire. Chrysler uses lug nuts with a chrome cap, and once the cap is off, the lug nut size goes from 19mm to 18mm. I did not have an 18mm deep socket (its kind of a weird size and the one I have I bought specifically to remove the blades on my lawnmower.) So I ended up rounding it off into a near perfect circle. I know this was a stupid, rookie mistake that could have been avoided with patience and proper tools. I’ve had a shop look at it, and they won’t touch it. (usually a bad sign) They say they would likely damage the alloy wheel and I’d have to replace it. I am very discouraged. I bought a craftsman bolt out kit with the sockets that have helix shaped teeth that bite on damaged fasteners, but the damn thing is on there so tight, It just rounds it off even more. Is there anything you can recommend that I haven’t tried? I don’t have air tools, and I’m trying to save my alloy wheel.
Thank you very much,
Doug
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Hey there
I have gotten myself into quite a big mess here. I have a 2003 Dodge Dakota 4.7l 2wd and I have completely obliterated one of the lug nuts on the driver side rear tire. Chrysler uses lug nuts with a chrome cap, and once the cap is off, the lug nut size goes from 19mm to 18mm. I did not have an 18mm deep socket (its kind of a weird size and the one I have I bought specifically to remove the blades on my lawnmower.) So I ended up rounding it off into a near perfect circle. I know this was a stupid, rookie mistake that could have been avoided with patience and proper tools. I’ve had a shop look at it, and they won’t touch it. (usually a bad sign) They say they would likely damage the alloy wheel and I’d have to replace it. I am very discouraged. I bought a craftsman bolt out kit with the sockets that have helix shaped teeth that bite on damaged fasteners, but the damn thing is on there so tight, It just rounds it off even more. Is there anything you can recommend that I haven’t tried? I don’t have air tools, and I’m trying to save my alloy wheel.
Thank you very much,
Doug
Hey there
I have gotten myself into quite a big mess here. I have a 2003 Dodge Dakota 4.7l 2wd and I have completely obliterated one of the lug nuts on the driver side rear tire. Chrysler uses lug nuts with a chrome cap, and once the cap is off, the lug nut size goes from 19mm to 18mm. I did not have an 18mm deep socket (its kind of a weird size and the one I have I bought specifically to remove the blades on my lawnmower.) So I ended up rounding it off into a near perfect circle. I know this was a stupid, rookie mistake that could have been avoided with patience and proper tools. I’ve had a shop look at it, and they won’t touch it. (usually a bad sign) They say they would likely damage the alloy wheel and I’d have to replace it. I am very discouraged. I bought a craftsman bolt out kit with the sockets that have helix shaped teeth that bite on damaged fasteners, but the damn thing is on there so tight, It just rounds it off even more. Is there anything you can recommend that I haven’t tried? I don’t have air tools, and I’m trying to save my alloy wheel.
Thank you very much,
Doug
Can you grind the head off the stud in the back and knock the stud out from the back with the nut still on the front. Only other way would be to cut the bolt with heat and that will probably result in injury to the wheel also.
Few things you can try. Eric actually has a video on getting , I think it was a seized bolt out of a drumbrake. Have a look at that, it involves and airhammer (which makes it a lot easier), however can be done with normal tools as well. Thats one way.
Since its all rounded, you could recreate the flat sides to it, by using a file (not sure if this is the right word, but the one you use to smooth edges etc). Once thats done, you can hammer on a slightly smaller than original socket and try again. Soke the nut in WD 40 or you guys have a thing called PB blaster I believe, to try loosening it up. Or heat it with a torch, give it a few good blows “where it goes through”, and try the trick with the socket.
That shop can do all those things, but they are just cautious because they might have to refund you for the alloys.
See how you go with the above, others might chime in with other/more advice.[quote=”LeoTheLion89″ post=59435]Why didn’t you just use the tire iron that comes with the car?[/quote]
Because it doesn’t fit the nut when the chrome nut cover is broken off the lugnut!!!!!!
one thing you could do is cut the lug nut off (or use a cutting torch) and then pull in a new lug nut stud:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy9t1mU0lG0[/video]
This my sound crazy but I have gotten a stuck lug nut off by drilling out the stud and replacing it. You have to be carefull not to drill into your rim but I have done it so it is doable.
The way I always fix this is with a sink wrench..Hear me out! You take a grinder, file..whatever a hack saw even.. Cut two deep notches into the sides of the lug nut, then tighten the sink wrench into these two notches, you can then use the t bar for maximum leverage to bust it loose and get it off. 😉
[quote=”UncleJohn” post=59452]The way I always fix this is with a sink wrench..Hear me out! You take a grinder, file..whatever a hack saw even.. Cut two deep notches into the sides of the lug nut, then tighten the sink wrench into these two notches, you can then use the t bar for maximum leverage to bust it loose and get it off. ;)[/quote]
you mean pipe wrench?
lol Ok Mr.Technical. 😛 I call it a sink wrench or a drain wrench because thats all its used for..other then the weird ways I find uses for it.lol
Ah ha it is a sink wrench..thought so..Pic attached. 🙂
theres one thing that comes to mind that ive done once or twice. it involves a socket and a tig welder. you want a socket that will fit just to where the sides are of the nut not the top. put a few tacks between the nut and the socket and it should come right off. its kinda hard to do since you dont have much space to work with so you will need alot of patience. youll be down a lug nut and a socket, but youll get it off without killin your rim. another is to try and take the dust guard off the brakes and grind the stud off from the back of the hub. either way, this is quite a pickle you got yourself into!
Ya and how do you plan to get at the nut while it is recessed into the rim to hold the rim on without tearing up the rim. There is barely enough room inside that recess for the socket to get on the nut.
It is a sink wrench, it’s not a pipe wrench Leo. It is a tool for removing the nuts under the sink that hold the faucet to the sink. Look under your sink Leo.
Its recessed? Oh dude!!! LOL Wow im so so sorry for you. Ok new plan man. This is even more insane but might work. GEt a angle grinder…err wait recessed..um, get a chizzle..LOL No seriously thou. Then try and dig a notch straight across the middle of the nut and stud, Once thats done take the same chizzle and beat the heck out of that stupid freaking nut!! eRr I mean sorry.. Take the same chizzle and a vice grip, use the vice grip on the chizzle put it in the newly formed notch and turn it that way?? Or as others have suggested you could drill out the stud enough to get the tire off, then pound out and replace the stud..oh yay what freaking fun that is!!! Thats my best guess man. If it was not recessed my other idea would work great, I use it all the time on these rusted junks of tin cans around here.lol
My buddy here who thinks he is a wise arse suggests making sure that you dont have T screws or allan screws around the center of your rim some let you remove a portion of the rim to get to the lugs so you dont scratch the finish. I told him you would of done that if that was a option..but there ya go.lol
You might be able to use a Dremmel with a small grinding stone and grind one side of the lugnut down to the stud. The stud will probably have to be replaced anyway. You might be able to knock it loose with a punch or narrow chisel from there. Personally though I would drill the stud to get the nut off and install a new stud.
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