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Operation Bucking Taurus

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  • #498815
    krycus21krycus21
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      99 Ford Taurus 3.0
      tranny fluid flushed every 35k-40k miles

      So besides my no heat from inside the cab, im having a totally different problem now. my wife drove to the store (car drove fine) after shopping she tried to put it in reverse and it did nothing, said it seemed like she was in neutral. she had someone push her out of the parking space then she put it in drive. she drove about a mile and the car was starting to buck like crazy so she pulled off to the side of the road and called me. I started the car and the car started to buck like she said, but the odd part it bucks in park also. I rented a car dolly and towed it home, and put the code reader on it just to see if it popped any codes, nothing, any ideas?

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    • #498965
      Jared ThomsonJared Thomson
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        Sounds like there are some major transmission problems. I bet some of your hard parts are broken and jamming up, causing “Bucking”. If you feel froggy you could drop the pan and see if there are metal shavings or anything else that would indicate big problems.

        #498970
        krycus21krycus21
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          Something i did not want to hear but i kinda had that in the back of my mind that it was the transmission. i already called a few junk yards and priced a few out, all was around the $300-$400 range with a 6-12 month warranty, ill drop the pan tomorrow when i have my brothers over to help me. ill be back

          #498979
          Jared ThomsonJared Thomson
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            Just make sure you check the fluid in those transmissions for a burnt smell and any black bits in the fluid. Those are bad things :P. Trannys aren’t fun or cheep, but $400 isnt bad. Mine was $1500.

            #498985
            krycus21krycus21
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              yeah, kinda sucks i baby’ed that car for the last 13 years and the transmission mite be out. guess shit happens. i was expecting it to be around $1,000, guess i got lucky.

              #498987
              steven jacobsensteven jacobsen
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                I dont understand how it can buck in park,, either there is a problem at the shift cable or valve, or it is an engine problem, a miss can be mistaken for trans trouble

                #498991
                krycus21krycus21
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                  At 1st it only bucked in gear, if you put it in natural it was fine purred like a kitten, it did not do it in park at 1st also, it started after she drove it for about a mile. i think thats why we think its the transmission, could be wrong all together.

                  #499030
                  Jared ThomsonJared Thomson
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                    Pick the drive wheels up off the ground with a jack and start the car in park. If its a motor problem, the wheels wont move, if its a transmission problem, you will probably see the wheels twitching or moving.

                    #499354
                    krycus21krycus21
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                      so, i raised it in the air put it in drive, nothing manually switched gears 1-2-3-D-R still nothing. no bucking neither

                      #499393
                      Jared ThomsonJared Thomson
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                        No movement in either wheel? One side could move without the other moving. Did you visually check both wheels for (abnormal) movement?

                        #499403
                        krycus21krycus21
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                          yep, nothing. would not even budge. you can turn the tire freely tho, if its in neutral

                          #499685
                          Jared ThomsonJared Thomson
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                            Well, I would start a really thorough diagnostic procedure. I would start with OEM plugs and wires to start. Before you put the new plugs and wires in, I would take all of your old plugs out and inspect them. Do all of them look about the same? Any that dont could indicate a problem with that cylinder, and you should check the fuel injector and compression of that cylinder. You can also spray the wires with water and see if you get any arcing. You should check your fuel pressure and make sure that’s good. Check the transmission fluid, it should be reddish, not smell super burnt (if you need a comparison, dip your finger in some new fluid) and it should not have black chunks in it. Basically to sum it up, we are looking at 4 possible causes, and you need to verify the working condition of each one of these systems:

                            – Ignition: Are all cylinders getting good, consistent spark?
                            – Fuel Delivery: Are you getting good pressure and are all injectors firing?
                            – Mechanical: Does the cylinder have compression?
                            – Transmission: Is there an internal transmission problem?

                            Because the transmission is the hardest to diagnose, I would start with the other three.

                            #499749
                            steven jacobsensteven jacobsen
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                              ahh, now i reread the whole thing, easy test to narrow it down. there is a cover under for the flex plate. could be a broken flexplate. it has the teeth on the outside under the short plastic cover, 3 bolts with 10 mm heads i think. if the plate moves easy and doesnt turn the engine with it then its a broken plate. if not then just get a trans from the scrap yard.
                              the way i now understand the question, it was good and bucked and came to a stop with the engine running, now the engine runs and it does not move, wheels are in park locked but move in neutral which is normal, lends to trans being ok but no guarentee
                              let me now if i got that wrong, it is hard enough to diagnose over the phone, let alone more difficult over typing

                              #499799
                              krycus21krycus21
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                                [quote=”snshd” post=48821]ahh, now i reread the whole thing, easy test to narrow it down. there is a cover under for the flex plate. could be a broken flexplate. it has the teeth on the outside under the short plastic cover, 3 bolts with 10 mm heads i think. if the plate moves easy and doesnt turn the engine with it then its a broken plate. if not then just get a trans from the scrap yard.
                                the way i now understand the question, it was good and bucked and came to a stop with the engine running, now the engine runs and it does not move, wheels are in park locked but move in neutral which is normal, lends to trans being ok but no guarentee
                                let me now if i got that wrong, it is hard enough to diagnose over the phone, let alone more difficult over typing[/quote]
                                Right on the money

                                #499834
                                Jared ThomsonJared Thomson
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                                  Ohhhhh!!!! Makes sense now! HA! +1 for checking the flex plate. If you can see that power is going into the transmission from the motor, but not coming out, I would suspect the differential unit inside the transmission, or the actually transmission (aka you need a new tranny).

                                  #501300
                                  EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                    If it was the flex plate I’d think you’d be hearing some sort of noise while the engine is running. Reading through it does sound like it could be an internal failure of the transmission. It could also be an electrical issue. Normally in situations like this you would check the pressures in the transmission with oil pressure gauges to see if the transmission is functioning properly.

                                    You could check the bolts on the flex plate for the heck of it but I suggest you take it to a transmission specialist to have it diagnosed. You don’t have to have them fix it but at least you’ll know for sure if the transmission has indeed failed and needs to be replaced.

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