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There is nothing wrong with being certified to do work in any profession. I have noticed that for all professions, even sports. Only a small percentage of people are EXCELLENT. For instance, look at a Law Firm. You have a lot of lawyers all over the place. However, you only have a few like Jonny Cochrane, basketball Michael Jordan, Auto Repair ERIC THE CAR GUY. My point is that even with the certification you will find varying degrees of effectiveness.
I don’t know too much about this new certification but i believe anything that’s on the wall of the repair facility waiting room helps the waiting customer feel more confident in the knowlege and ability of the people working on their cars.
Would you feel confident sitting in the waiting room of a Doctor that has no certificates on the wall?
If i hand’t been there before i might be a little uneasy.
This is coming from someone in the IT field for 10 years…
Up until this video was released I really had no idea what was involved with ASC certification. I like the idea that tech had to be in the field for a period of time BEFORE they could qualify. This new certification might help the junior techs and if I’m going to a shop for a basic service a G1 tech might be good enough larger jobs not so much. Think of it this way a physicians assistant can help you out when you have a cold/flu but I want a doctor for surgical procedure!
Certs can be a good thing for junior folks and for people who have been in the field long enough to “prove” they have the knowledge to work in their respective area. When I interview someone for an IT position I really only glance at their resume because if someone is “certified” but can’t explain the basics then I know that person basically when in and took a test. The trick is that I don’t get to see resumes that aren’t read by HR first and all they are looking for a keywords a lot of times. To me experience is key but you need to get though HR first.
Odd question, are the ASC tests book tests or live (i.e you need to fix/identify/perform a task)? My Red Hat Engenner exam was one of those fix/perform type exams and its funny because the failure rate is huge. I had to take the test twice and at the time I had four year experience working with their product line! VMware was easy compared to RedHat, study/cram for a few days and take the test.
[quote=”drthrift035″ post=63055]There is nothing wrong with being certified to do work in any profession. I have noticed that for all professions, even sports. Only a small percentage of people are EXCELLENT. For instance, look at a Law Firm. You have a lot of lawyers all over the place. However, you only have a few like Jonny Cochrane, basketball Michael Jordan, Auto Repair ERIC THE CAR GUY. My point is that even with the certification you will find varying degrees of effectiveness.[/quote]
Good point, thanks for your input.
[quote=”jeep72″ post=63087]I have ASE in Brakes. Should I take the G1 ASE? B)[/quote]
Anything that helps you better your job and your income is something you should be interested in do you think? 🙂
[quote=”jb606″ post=63098]This is coming from someone in the IT field for 10 years…
Up until this video was released I really had no idea what was involved with ASC certification. I like the idea that tech had to be in the field for a period of time BEFORE they could qualify. This new certification might help the junior techs and if I’m going to a shop for a basic service a G1 tech might be good enough larger jobs not so much. Think of it this way a physicians assistant can help you out when you have a cold/flu but I want a doctor for surgical procedure!
Certs can be a good thing for junior folks and for people who have been in the field long enough to “prove” they have the knowledge to work in their respective area. When I interview someone for an IT position I really only glance at their resume because if someone is “certified” but can’t explain the basics then I know that person basically when in and took a test. The trick is that I don’t get to see resumes that aren’t read by HR first and all they are looking for a keywords a lot of times. To me experience is key but you need to get though HR first.
Odd question, are the ASC tests book tests or live (i.e you need to fix/identify/perform a task)? My Red Hat Engenner exam was one of those fix/perform type exams and its funny because the failure rate is huge. I had to take the test twice and at the time I had four year experience working with their product line! VMware was easy compared to RedHat, study/cram for a few days and take the test.[/quote]
ASE tests are multiple choice and do not involve a ‘practical’ during the exam. The initial test you take for your first certification is the hardest. There are more questions and the questions are harder. You have to renew every 5 years in order to remain certified. The recertification tests are much easier and have fewer questions than the first set of tests you take. More info here.
I don’t think there is a problem with getting people who do maintenance work certified – it shows some form of qualifications for what they are doing. What I do have a problem with is if ASE treats all certifications equally. Will people with G1 certs have the same patch as someone who took the A1-A8 exams? If that’s the case the shop can shift the guy over from doing oil changes and have him doing a head gasket all the while telling the customer that the person doing the work is certified – the customer would be none the wiser about his qualifications,
I think it’s pointless.
Not against, not for.
The whole ASE thing is sounding more and more like a sham every time i hear about it. Sounds a lot easier then it is here to become a registered mechanic.[quote=”87FoRunner” post=63243]what is the experience time before taking the G1? I know the rest are 2 years…[/quote]
1yr for G1
To me it sounds like its ment for people who work at jiffy lube or those quick lube shops. ASE is hit and miss for me in my opinion, some independent shops dont care if you have them and some do. As for the shops that do want you to be ASE certified they dont really pay a higher wage then the shops that could care less if you have them.
Any certification looks good on a resume. It proves that you have the desire to better yourself and move further in your career. Everyone has to start somewhere. ASE cert doesn’t mean you know more anyway. Experience is everything in the field. Anyone can pass a test if they study enough, but experience is what people look for. ANy master tech or L1 cert tech should not be worried about a G1 cert tech, just be happy for them that they are trying to better themselves and move forward.
It seems to me that mostly the master techs are the ones that this bothers…That’s just ego. What about 20 years ago when you were starting out, and you were in the same boat? You knew some stuff, but you really didn’t have a lot of experience yet. But someone gave you a chance. Well for new techs, some sort of certification could help them get that chance.
Obviously, an employer would more likely still choose the guy with experience. It’s about your attitude too. Employers will give guys with less experience, but who seem motivated and doing things like [this G1 test], a chance as well.
I think the problem is that a lot of guys that have been in the field for 20+ years forget where they started…doing light repairs and preventative maintenance.
I’m a high school auto instructor. I see the G1/MLR certification a great stepping stone for young techs. It gives them a different patch and credentials. It is very clear that it is a maintenance and light repair tech vs. a master tech. I don’t think that this waters down our “Master Tech” status at all. It just puts the people that would be doing oil changes in a dealership in a slightly different job market. If you have the knowledge to pass this ASE, do it. It covers all eight areas. It also gets your feet wet with what real ASE tests look for. I was even thinking of doing this. If I’m putting my students through it, I might as well have that credential as well.
On a side note. Eric, thank you for all of the incredible useful content. You are a regular in my classroom. Keep up the great work.
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