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Long story short honda found out I had a car with no air bags / seat belt retractors . But when i bought the car no air bag light was on and it did turn on when I would leave it in the ACC possion .
What should i do ? the dealer said it was around 4,000 in parts that are needed ! I bought the car for that much.
2007 honda accord vp woth 110K milesSell it ? Or try and fix it myself ? or just leave it alone ? how would i fix it myself anyone know good youtubers ?
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Same here, but the point is that no inspection is required for registration or insurance. Technically, the only part of the car that has to exist is the VIN tag in order to get the paperwork.
As for the safety inspection, at least here, that requires nothing more than a visual inspection to ensure the lights and horn work, the brakes and suspension show no obvious signs of leakage, and the exhaust and body don’t have obvious holes in them. It isn’t going to show if airbags or seat belt retractors are in place, as long as the appropriate cosmetic pieces are installed. Besides, it isn’t as if anyone has never skipped the safety inspection and driven without the legal inspection sticker.
They are quite stringent in NZ with inspections , and police can pink sticker a car they deem unfit for road use , effectively ordering it off he road until it gets a legal inspection sticker
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[quote=”Commodore665″ post=169655]They are quite stringent in NZ with inspections , and police can pink sticker a car they deem unfit for road use , effectively ordering it off he road until it gets a legal inspection sticker
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Man. That would suck. The majority of my vehicles would have pink stickers lol
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Ya… Sucks but its Highly Illegal in the USA to sell a car with out the air bags that it came with and selt belts… it is a fenline for anyone to disable safty features… which basically that car has because its missing… I remember one of the discovery channel programs or something like that I think Pimp my ride but could be wrong… got is a major legal problems that they removed the steering wheel and put in a cooler wheel with out an airbag wich the car came with… I remember it was on the news and stuff… and they got some really big heat for it… I think the DA and the DOJ where looking at it and reviewing on what to do with the installers…
another way to look at it is also that the insurance company finds out you dont have them they will probably drop you and if your in an accatent and someone else is driving your car and gets ingired… and they sue your insurance your insurance will mostly try to collect from you for missing air bags and missing bealts… also something you probably didnt look or think about … your also comitting fraud.. when you sign up for the insurance your saying that your car has seat belts and air bags… unless you told the insurance company and have a under write that they accepted stating that this is not a slandered Honda (i forget the model) 07 and its missing air bags and seat belts… then you are cheating them because injerectly you are saying that you do because thats what the car came with…
also a cop can impound your car in the usa because its required that you have your safety belt on in the drivers and passenger seats… but not having them there your cant drive the car… there for its not road legal and can be impounded.. so if a cop wants to be a d*ck he can impound it
not to keep rambling on and I just want to let you know so you dont get your butt all messed up Im not trying to say anything bad just pointing out what my thoughts are… but unless you can prove your not the one that did it and you brought that car that way… if who ever you sold it to get killed driving it you can legally could be responsible.. both criminally and civilly
perally I would do it my self but Im sorta thats me.. even if you replace the whole stearing wheel and colam and put the belts in … if you replace the collume you might have to replace the key system and have it reprogramed … but 4k seams to high.. a junk yard is like $50-150 for the stering wheel and collum and seat belts maybe high side like maybe $50 each and like my locksmith over here charge like $120 to reprogram it… so I dont know how they get 4k… that seams way to high but I dont know the details[quote=”Commodore665″ post=169655]They are quite stringent in NZ with inspections , and police can pink sticker a car they deem unfit for road use , effectively ordering it off he road until it gets a legal inspection sticker.[/quote]
Same here, but that doesn’t keep people from running the roads with uninspected vehicles. Face it, when you have a $500 car that requires $2000 (which you don’t have) in repairs to pass the inspection, there aren’t many who will park their wheels and take up walking as a hobby. At least not in these parts.
[quote=”Evil-i” post=169326][quote=”Commodore665″ post=169296]How would a car with no airbags , when it should have them get registered or insured , me thinks we’ve been suckered.[/quote]
I don’t know where you call home, but in Canada, nobody inspects your vehicle when you register or insure it. Simple face-to-face exchange of info across a desk or counter.[/quote]
It depends on what part of the country you’re in. Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta (upon bringing a used vehicle in, I could be wrong though) and BC have inspection programs. At least in Manitoba the only way police used the regulations is to generate revenue and not actual safety enforcement. Again in Manitoba the standards are what I can only describe as minimum code and restrictive in the scope of inspection.
[quote=”DaFirnz” post=169730][quote=”Evil-i” post=169326][quote=”Commodore665″ post=169296]How would a car with no airbags , when it should have them get registered or insured , me thinks we’ve been suckered.[/quote]
I don’t know where you call home, but in Canada, nobody inspects your vehicle when you register or insure it. Simple face-to-face exchange of info across a desk or counter.[/quote]
It depends on what part of the country you’re in. Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta (upon bringing a used vehicle in, I could be wrong though) and BC have inspection programs. At least in Manitoba the only way police used the regulations is to generate revenue and not actual safety enforcement. Again in Manitoba the standards are what I can only describe as minimum code and restrictive in the scope of inspection.[/quote]
Just to be clear, I was talking about getting registration and insurance papers only. The safety inspection is another matter entirely. I’ve had vehicles in several Canadian provinces, and registration/insurance were always mere paper formalities. Had nothing to do with vehicle’s actual road worthiness.
In my experience, a vehicle doesn’t have to meet any safety requirements in order for you to register and insure it. It doesn’t have to be driveable at all.
At least in the case of a title transfer, a certificate of inspection is required for anything more than a temp tag in Manitoba. Unless it’s between immediate family. Since we have the single overlord of all things automobile related, you have zero choice in the matter. I can only assume since Saskatchewan and BC have similar overlord systems that they probably operate in the same manner.
I think if you cared even a little you’d get everything from a safety sticker to insurance , it’s your life and family at stake , not to mention other road users .
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[quote=”DaFirnz” post=169750]At least in the case of a title transfer, a certificate of inspection is required for anything more than a temp tag in Manitoba. Unless it’s between immediate family. Since we have the single overlord of all things automobile related, you have zero choice in the matter. I can only assume since Saskatchewan and BC have similar overlord systems that they probably operate in the same manner.[/quote]
In that case, how do you go about getting legal ownership of a “basket case” project car/truck/motorcycle?
[quote=”Commodore665″ post=169911]I think if you cared even a little you’d get everything from a safety sticker to insurance , it’s your life and family at stake , not to mention other road users .[/quote]
Too true, but desperate financial constraints will force some people to take desperate actions. Our society is structured so that personal mobility is a necessity, even for the poor. Fully-serviced communal neighborhoods, where all the necessities are within walking distance, are a rare thing, especially in poor areas. The simple act of buying groceries can be a Herculean task without personal transport. Add other factors to that, like a seasonally harsh climate with killing temperatures or a torrential wet season, and many people will skirt the legal hoops and requirements if it means having access to personal transport.
I would kinda like sources to verify what you said because I can get my inspectors handbook and there is nothing in there about airbags. Seat belts yes. Seat belt retractors? No.
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[quote=”ArtTheConfusedGuy” post=170002]I would kinda like sources to verify what you said because I can get my inspectors handbook and there is nothing in there about airbags. Seat belts yes. Seat belt retractors? No.
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On September 1, 1998, the Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act of 1991 finally goes into effect. The law required that all cars and light trucks sold in the United States have air bags on both sides of the front seat.[quote=”ArtTheConfusedGuy” post=170002]I would kinda like sources to verify what you said because I can get my inspectors handbook and there is nothing in there about airbags. Seat belts yes. Seat belt retractors? No.
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http://www.nhtsa.gov/Driving+Safety/Disabled+Drivers/disabled-drivers-faqs
Since 1972, manufacturers, distributors, dealers and motor vehicle repair businesses have been prohibited from knowingly “making inoperative” any part of a device or element of design that has been installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with a Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS). Examples of such modifications include removing airbags, modifying door latches or reducing available crush space. On February 27, 2001, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) published a Final Rule that provides limited exemptions to this “make inoperative prohibition.” These exemptions are available to businesses and individuals who modify vehicles to accommodate persons with disabilities either as drivers or as passengers.
This article was written to answer questions raised about the Final Rule by the National Mobility Equipment Dealers Association (NMEDA), a trade group representing modifiers of vehicles for people with disabilities. This article provides information on how to use the allowed exemptions and how to comply with the record keeping, labeling and consumer disclosure requirements of the regulation. A list of exemptions is at the end of the article. A question and answer format is used for easy access. Explanations of why specific exemptions were or were not included in the Final Rule are not included here. However, this information can be found in the preambles to the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) and the Final Rule.
there for unfortunately in the USA you cant sell the car until you put the safety features back in …. unless the person that you sell it to has a documented disability requiring them and you have documentation supporting it…
so if that person sold the car in the USA with out airbag and seat belts then they are commuting a felony
and that is a .gov site so that is part of the government ran site
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