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Im a fan of using OEM parts as you get what you pay for.
However, purchase whatever is in your budget.
+1 on OEM parts but if it’s not in the budget you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do. The key is to make sure you have isolated the problem to a faulty coil pack using the power balance test and perhaps swapping them around till you find the bad one
Eric,
I have a another question. When I CHANGED aftermarket spark plugs back to OEM spark plugs. I FOUND spark plugs #4, #5, #6 has little oil around the thread (spark plug. well ).
Eric, I did changed the valve cover seals And cover tube seals LESS THAN 10 MONTHS with aftermarket? I am confuse right now…What other seals that I forgot to change but the leaks still present on spark plugs #4,#5, #6?
Are aftermarket parts are bad, what cause the leaks still inside the spark plug well oil leaks?
OR I NEED BUY OEM valve cover seals and spark plug tube seals?
NOT SURE LITTLE LEAK AROUND THE SPARK PLUGS THREAD CAUSE MISFIRE CODE all 6 Cylinder misfires. Eric, little oil can cause code misfires all 6 cylinders?
OEM COIL PACKS ARRIVED THIS TUESDAY; I’LL LET YOU KNOW IF CODES 6 CYLINDER MISFIRE FIX.
This video will help you out and yes, if the tip of the spark plug is fouled out, it will cause a misfire.
I saw the video tube link spark plugs well oil leaks Since this video apply Honda Accord, but I have Acura 2004 TL. Does this video apply to Acura 2004, too?
It’s possible they are not installed correctly or it’s residual oil left over from the last repair it’s hard to say without looking for myself. OE parts are preferred as they are much better than the aftermarket parts in my experience but it’s imperative that they are installed correctly if not they will leak OE or not. I STILL think you should try a power balance test as the engine in that video is virtually the same as the one you have so it should be pretty straightforward. In addition clogged EGR passages can cause a misfire code on that engine but the code you have listed in your post is for a rich condition. Start with the power balance test, fix any oil leaks you might have (with OE parts if necessary) and then recheck for the condition and for the codes.
No it does not, there are seals in the valve cover only, it’s not common for those seals to leak unless they were damaged during valve cover removal and replacement. If it’s a small amount of oil I don’t think it’s a big concern but if it’s a large amount up then you might want to look into it.
[color=#0000ff]ERIC, THANKS FOR REPLYING TO MY QUESTION.
ERIC, I HAVE BAD NEWS TODAY AFTER CHANGED OUT old COIL PACK WITH NEW OEM coil pack. I TOOK A TEST DRIVE AND WENT IN GAS STATION TO PUMP GAS FOR ACURA 2004. TRY TO CRANK, THE CAR HEAR SMALL SOUND CLICK 4-5 TIMES. NO LUCK TO CRANK AT ALL, THEN I TOOK A SMALL SCREWDRIVER HIT THE STARTER. IT FIRE BACK UP WITHOUT NO PROBLEM. WENT HOME AND REVERSE TO MY DRIVEWAY. SHUTOFF THE ENGINE and remove the key AND THE ACURA CAR STILL RUN ITSELF. VERY SCARY, AND I WENT IN TO DRAG A 10MM SOCKET TO REMOVE THE NEGATIVE CABLE. THE CAR RUN LIKE THAT ABOUT LESS THAN 1 MIN., BUT I HOPE THE ENGINE STILL FINE. VERY WORRY COULD THAT DEMAGE fly wheel THE ENGINE OR NOT… I REMOVE THE NEGATIVE CABLE, IF I PUT THE NEGATIVE CABLE BACK TERMINAL..THE CAR STILL CRANK WITHOUT THE KEY IN INGITION.
Eric, what do you suggest I do before remove the starter? should the starter easy remove since the starter stuck?
THE STARTER HAS TO BE STUCK WHEN THE PLUGGER CAN’T RETRACT WHEN I REMOVE THE KEY.
NOW, WHAT ARE MY OPTION HERE? ERIC OR SOMEONE CAN COMMENTS…BEST WAY TO SAVE $, BUT STILL BE SAFE TO DRIVE W/O PROBLEM AGAIN. REPLACE A NEW WITH OEM STARTER OR CAN I BUY BRUSH TO REBUILD WITH OLD OEM STARTER.
I FOUND AN OEM STARTER ON WEBSITE[/color]
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acu … al&count=2
31200-RKB-004STARTER MOTOR ASSY. (SM-44242-4G) (MITSUBA)0012004TL365.05273.79Qty[color=#0000ff]273.79 IF I BUY ONLINE, AND PICK LOCAL GA. IF I BUY ONLINE, TOTAL CAME OUT $279.00 IF I PICK UP LOCAL. SHIPPING AND HANGLING $25.00. WANT TO GET THE PART, SO I CAN REPLACE OUT THIS Saturday AND TEST DRIVE MORE to see if check engine came back or not. IF THE CHECK ENGINE light code P0172 STILL CAME BACK…
I would bring in the shop to scan tool freeze live data.[/color] THIS TIME I BRING IN SHOP AND TELL THEM WHAT I HAVE DONE SO FAR.
[color=#0000ff]What you guys thing? Good deal or bad deal grand total $279.00. Need the part really bad because I want to change out because this Saturday weather is HOT, Sunday is raining again.HOPE THEY CAN HAVE SCAN TOOL FREEZE LIVE DATA, AND CAN TELL ME WHAT COULD BE POTENTIAL PROBLEM.
6 HOURS DRIVE FOR ME IF I GO PICK UP. GAS THIS DAY IS HIGH…[/color]
Updated…
Today, I replaced the starter. Bought OEM Remanufacture starter at Acura dealership price 365.00 with 40 core charges. If I bring old starter, I get $40 back.
When you buy OEM parts at dealer, check online website price and print it out. Most place price match. You might have to talk the guys in part department, and you tell them you found OEM parts w/ cheaper. Possible you can price match, but print a copy to show him so he can attach to his paper work to show proved the price match. I did that, and I got 365.00 list online OEM remanufacture starter… Best deal is be a smart shopper.
I have to say, Acura starter has two bolds to remove old starter. the top bold is easy to remove, but the bottom bold under the starter gave me trouble because two sensors are very close by. If you’re not careful, you can break two sensors because both sensors are very close to the starter bold.
Lucky, I bought Air gun from Harbor Freight and has 25 gallon compressor tank. the bold is 17 mm, so I use air gun with extension 17 mm socket. the 17 mm bold loose, I am very happy. If you don’t have access to air gun, the bold would be very hard to remove because tight space.
It took me 6 hours to finished the job replaced new starter. This is my first time done anything on Acura car. Toyota car is very easy to remove and replaced starter if you have 96 Toyota Camry (don’t buy new starter, you can get Starter kit to rebuld your old starter on Toyota to save $$$ not buy new starter or aftermarket). You get starter kit buy online…easy to do and you save big $$$. All you have to replace two brush inside the starter because they wore out with normal tear.
The car start sound good, and shutoff and remove the key from ignition with no issues. Very happy, but it’s worth it.
I replaced the starter because I can’t start the car. When I tried to start the car, I hear 2-3 clicks but no start. After hit the starter, the start crank without no problem.
Also, today I clean Intake body throttle while everything remove with more spaces. A little dirty on the intake body throttle. I reset the check engine light, took a test drive on highway about 58 miles. The code P0172 came back again.
Tuesday, I am off, I plan to ttake the car in shop to have scan tool freezes live data. hopefully, they can tell me what wrong.
6 cylinder misfires went away. Only code P0172 is still came back.
I hope not O2 sensors or catalytic converter. both items are high $$$…. Does anyone know Acura car has problem O2 sensor or catalytic converter?
Do you have access to a scan tool that can show live engine data? Sorry, I do not have a scanner at all. don’t know a good scanner that support live data and freeze, too.
Hey guys, I forgot to mention today I discover the TUBE, AIR FLOW connect onto Intake body Throttle neck broke about 1/2, but I manage cut small paper cardboard and try to seal around the tear neck that joint onto the Intake Body throttle.
Could this cause code P0172 check engine light come up? P0172 = Lean to rich Bank 1.
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/acu … iew=normal
look at #6 where neck connect to Intake Body thorottle #9 is broken about 1/2 around where you use #9 to tight down with 10 mm.
I went ahead order the #6 because I need to replace anyway because hope this will fix P0172 issue before I bring in the shop on Tuesday.
DO you guys think #6 crack will allow more air went intake body throttle cause P0172 code check engine come up?
DOes my model Acura 2004 TL has MAF (Mass Air Flow) Sensor?
Thank you guys… I’ll update more after the car goes in shop. Keep your suggestion coming….
Sorry to hear about that starter issue that is pretty strange, I would have recommended you check the solenoid wire to see if it was getting a constant signal just to be sure the starter actually was the cause and not something else. That said as for the misfire have you done the power balance test?
Yes, I found 4 bad coil packs. then I went ahead put all 6 NEW OEM Acura coil packs while the car has 136000 miles. if 4 died on me, i think 2 other coil pack will died later.
recaps what I have done so far.
1) replace all 6 spark plugs with OEM from Acura dealership
2) replace all 6 coil packs
3) clean the part of intake throttle where the air filter goes in
4) the engine misfire code still P0172 and all 6 cylinder misfiresnow, I go remove the big intake out and clean as Eric suggested. Hope this will fix.. What else I need to look? Eric, I run out direction to go if I remove the intake completed off and clean. if that not fix my problem…. I don’t know where to go…the car run has power and engine temperature stays in the middle constant.
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