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I have a 1991 ford tempo gl 2.3 efi with the three speed automatic 81k on the clock
since purchaced and tuned up, car has run excellent! maybe five months or so…
The other day with no warning an engine light came on and the engine killed and would not refire.
so on the side of the road, I checked the following….
fuel flow, 10 ft spray … after the filter so not a problem.
ignition screwdriver in the spark plug, got spark sometimes…?
I ran the self test obd1 and got two codes 32, and 52
32 egr out of range
52 power steering circuit openI dont know where to start.
the car runs fine now but I cant trust it… you know?
Heres what I have done before hand to rule out bad parts…
New cap , rotor, wires, ngk plugs,
fuel filter, cold air intake
did change most of the vac lines that I could reach, at least the ones that leaked during a smoke test.
removed oil and exhaust re breathers replaced with small air filters.
I also change the oil and filter every three thousand.
car leaks nothing but power steering from rack at the boot dr side.
And if your wondering how I got it running again… after a very expensive tow home , i reset the
pcm and all is well I just dont want it to happen again!!
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Might be the pick-up coil in the distributor. I used to see a lof of em go bad. Usually act up when hot.
update, I repalced the coil same problem!!
I got about 13 miles before it quit…I pulled the codes as soon as I got home
34
32
52I have no idea whats going on, but if I cant find out what it is this week! IM SELLING IT!!!!!!!!
I cant keep getting towed home!
And riding my quad to work in the rain sucks!
That’s a tough one since it won’t act up again for you. The most likely thing if i remember right was tha hall effect pick up in the distributor. When it gets hot it gives up and when it cools it works again.
I replaced quite a few of them but i’m only guessing. Maybe you can find a complete used distributor at a good price and just replace the whole thing. The timing will need to be reset after.
It’s very unlikely that those codes are the cause of ur problem.
I know this is for a f150 but same procedure.
http://www.justanswer.com/ford/2rp4v-trouble-code-44-34-ford-f150-1991.html
http://www.justanswer.com/ford/6eday-ford-tempo-gl-multiple-trouble-codes-21-24-31-52.html
I pulled these codes after pushing the car home with my atv. it was still in the “normal temp range”
however its in the 90s here in louisianaI tried to start the car when I rode to retrieve it, had my brother attempt to start it on the way to the house a few time and when I got home. when home it did sputter but wouldn’t catch.
I tried again as of writing the message started (cold on temp) ran until I could pop the hood then it quit, and wont restart.
just checked the codes again… same 34 32 52 egr, egr, and power steering
I called around to the salvage yards there is one car in the area, so ill go see if its got a distributor tomorrow I guess…
I would just drive my truck but it get about 6 to the gallon and has a dead battery (push start)… not great for commuting
I rode my quad to work the last two days in the rain , I guess I’ll make it a habit.Your car is TFI ignition module equipped and those modules are prone to intermittent failure with varying symptoms. Summer heat coming on is often the cause of their going belly up due to heat and they’re been a well known problem for years. FOMOCO was sued over them and paid out millions in a settlement.
If the car is only dying at idle the EGR could be behind that problem. If it dies at speed on the open road then the TFI is always suspect.
Don’t worry about the power steering code too much. That can be set if the steering is not operated during a self test much like a brake switch code if the pedal is not depressed.
If you change the module you absolutely must use the special grease that comes with the new module or it will fail too.
I looked up the tfi module and found this…
http://www.autosafety.org/uploads/TFI%20Warranty%20Extensionf.pdf
I just sent off an email to my nearest ford dealer, to see if it is still in act! just might get my car fixed for free!
Best of luck but I wouldn’t hold my breath on Ford covering the module at this point in time. Anything’s possible I suppose.
About 10 years ago or whenever it was I got several notices in the mail about the lawsuit and reimbursement for any repairs due to those modules. One car I did not even own anymore and with the other I had replaced the module several years earlier. I filled out the forms, mailed in the receipts, and lo and behold quite a few months later they sent me a check. They do not work fast.
More than once I was sitting on the side of the road on a summer day waiting for the module to cool down and an engine restart. At the time the modules were not widely known to be a problem and testing them means nothing because they can test fine a 1000 times and still be bad.
The symptoms can vary from bucking and jerking like running out of gas or just dying outright. Sometimes the engine will restart in a few minutes or it may take an hour. It’s all heat related and the backside of those modules get almost red hot just from battery voltage much less engine heat on a summer day. I found out just how hot once when touching one that had the key in the run position for a few minutes….Yeah….TFI modules were a problem too but in my experience once they quit that’s it. The older Ford modules that were bolted to the fender had even larger problems.
That was why i suggested a replacement distributor as it would cover both parts.
Update: well I got a hold of for corporate, apparently my car wasn’t included on the list for the recall, even though it had the recalled part. Well I went a head and changed it, along with the coil.
now three tow trucks later, I can make it only a few blocks before it kills and only restarts hours later with starting fluid…
the problem is getting worse… yet the car will idle all day???
any more suggestions before I ignite this thing and push it into the lake??
[quote=”Crown” post=64566]Update:
now three tow trucks later, I can make it only a few blocks before it kills, the problem is getting worse. any more suggestions before I ignite this thing and push it into the lake??[/quote]
This is why I do not like Ford products. A guy told me if you can work on a Ford you can fix anything :woohoo:Well I finally found the problem!!…. it was the pickup coil again… defective….
so now the car has a new…
pickup coil
tfi sensor
coil
plugs and wire
cap and rotorcar finnally runs for more than and hour in traffic… how ever now its time to acctually fix the fan because traffic has killed 2 toggle switches in the last week!!, and the car isnt going to cool its self off!!
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