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Hey
I have a 2014 Camry with 225/45/18 on it I want to use a set of winter tires I had for my 2008 ford fusion.
The winter tires are 205/60/16 which is almost the exact same size tire and is offered as the standard size on the camry.
My question is the camry Center bore is 60.1 mm and the winter rim is 67.0 mm has any one had any problems using a hub Centring ring the bolt pattern is the same and the tires fit perfect just a small gap around the hub. Also the offset is a little smaller on the winter rims and there is about 3 mm clearance between the rim and calliper when installed and tight. The tapered lug nuts Center the rim on the hub. Should I get 5 mmm hub spacer plates. . The rear wheels fit perfect minus the hub gap. Is it ok to add 5 mm to the the track width on each side just on the front
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The winter tire/wheel combination I bought came with centering rings. The only problem is keeping track of them. They may stick to the hub, the wheel, or roll away and hide.
I don’t like spacers but plenty of people with crazy big wheels run them. If you can fit the wheels without them why use them?
You shouldn’t need the spacers because car wheels are usually lug-centric. Meaning that if the lug nuts have a tapered end on the wheel side it centers the wheel to the studs.
The hub clearance is fine, no centering rings needed. You might need to buy some different lugnuts to get a better contact area on the rim if your Camry has the standard Toyota aluminum wheel nuts with the extended bit.
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My question is the camry Center bore is 60.1 mm and the winter rim is 67.0 mm has any one had any problems using a hub Centering ring the bolt pattern is the same and the tires fit perfect just a small gap around the hub. Also the offset is a little smaller on the winter rims and there is about 3 mm clearance between the rim and calliper when installed and tight. The tapered lug nuts Center the rim on the hub. Should I get 5 mmm hub spacer plates. . The rear wheels fit perfect minus the hub gap. Is it ok to add 5 mm to the the track width on each side just on the front[/quote]
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1. You need hub rings to fill the gap between the wheel center bore and hub and do not let anyone tell you that you do not. If you do not the wheel will not be hub centric and I guarantee you will get vibrations from the front wheels at speed. Also the hub is there to support the wheel which is why the manufacturers have an exact size wheel center to fit the hub to ensure a snug fit of the wheel. Contact one of the many hub ring suppliers and give them the center bore and hub measurements. They will give you the correct size hub rings to fit – front and rear. Metal ones are better than plastic but either will do the job.2. Slide on wheel spacers are not legal in some jurisdictions so you need to be wary of them. If you have 3 mm clearance caliper to wheel you have nothing to be concerned about so bolt the wheels on and test it out. Check both sides as the clearances may differ by a small margin. Once bolted up firmly on the hub there should be no lateral movement in the wheel or caliper for one to foul the other with 3mm clearance each side.
If you fit a 5mm spacer you must fit longer wheel studs (or longer wheel bolts for bolt applications) at least equal to the thickness of the spacer. All responsible spacer suppliers say this is mandatory for all their slip on spacer products (no ifs and buts)and you know why.
3. Putting the front wheels on with no hub rings then a 5mm spacer and holding the lot together with the existing length studs and nuts, which are supporting the entire wheel, is a really unsafe idea.
It was my understanding that wheels are lug or stud centric when using a tapered nut the rim centers on the stud not the hub. The studs do not touch the side on the holes in the rim and even with the correct center bore there is still a small gap (thousands of an inch) if there wasn’t a small gap it would make it impossible to remove the rim. IMO the weight of the car is not held buy the hub or the studs,its held buy the friction between the hub break rotor and the rim. the studs just supply the clamping force needed to create the friction. But i don’t know maybe my way of thinking is wrong. I also did by some poly carbonate centering rings ($9.00 with free shipping)) Once i install them will the rings come out wile i am driving there seams like there is nothing holding them in? Maybe a cheep set of junk yard hubcaps will help if the fall out they would still be under the hubcap.
Thanks for all you help everyoneAny OEM wheel centers on the hub too so that must be important. The aftermarket wheel/tire combination I got from Tire Rack were made to fit a number of cars by using hubcentric rings. There are spaces in the backsides of the wheels for them. Lacking this would they fall out? Good question.
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