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Hey guys,
When changing a timming belt on a Honda (civic 1999 hatchback), a Harmonic Damper Crankshaft Pulley tool is required right, such as:
http://www.amazon.com/Harmonic-Damper-Crankshaft-Pulley-Holding/dp/B007QFBI6M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406172436&sr=8-2&keywords=honda+harmonic+damper+crankshaft+pulley+holding+toolHowever, will this be required in addition to the above?
http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648796-Cranks-Pulley-Removal/dp/B0000TMLWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406172436&sr=8-1&keywords=honda+harmonic+damper+crankshaft+pulley+holding+tool
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possibly. If you have a good impact gun then you don’t need any of that. Honda tends to torque the living dog S*($ out of their balancer bolts though. If the balancer has never been removed before then you might end up needing a holding tool and a good breaker bar… if you don’t have a good impact gun.
Just another quick question.
To save abit of cost, couldn’t I just buy the pulley tool attachment http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648796-Cranks-Pulley-Removal/dp/B0000TMLWQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406172436&sr=8-1&keywords=honda+harmonic+damper+crankshaft+pulley+holding+tool
Attach that to 1 breaker break
As based on the comment it seems like another breaker bar is required? I don’t understand how another breaker bar can be used? I’m assuming you place another breaker bar using a deep socket to fit inside the pulley tool (in the centre)?
yea the balancer holder does just that. Holds the balancer so that you can loosen the balancer bolt without turning the crank. If your car is up on jack stands you could do what I’ve done a few times… wedge something against the flywheel to keep the crank from turning.
While I have never used the first tool you showed at all, here is what I can say about removing Honda crank bolts…
Breaking these bolts can be a pain, because Honda used a backward running engine (little joke here) until around 2000…. These engines spin counterclockwise, so that makes the crank bolt a pain to come off…
The second tool you showed is used to hold the pulley in position…use a breaker bar to hold it to the floor to keep it from moving while breaking the bolt free…
See pic
Then you remove the bolt… This thing can sound like a rifle shot when the bolt breaks free… here is a pic to help show how hard it can be to turn this thing… People use extensions and long breaker bars and use a jackstand to hold up the extensions… 1/2 drive or greater is a must…
Good luck
-Karl
Oh yes, a honda crank pulley, I hope you’ve been working out. I use a 1 inch impact to take them off to give you a prospective. My front end guy used an IR gun and it simply laughed at it. Don’t be scared of it, it’s going to take alot to break that thing loose.
You only need one or the other. The first one is a knock off moroso bar and the bottom one is a commonly used item. I’ve used both. when I was building engines I swore by the moroso bar. Be noted that it doesn’t fit depth wise on some newer cars. like the RSX for example. It wont fit on with the engine in its normal location.
Referring to this picture:
Does the 2nd breaker bar HAVE to touch the ground? I’ve seen some videos where they only used a short bar to hold the pulley tool in place
It doesn’t matter as long as the pulley tool is being held by “something” substantial to keep the pulley from turning…
-Karl
Does this mean that the breaker bar that touches the ground will NOT move as you try to break the bolt off with the other breaker bar?
I find it strange because if one breaker bar moves anticlockwise the other should move clockwise, but in this case.. if the breaker bar was to move clockwise, it will hit the bumper of the car.
the bolt hold the pulley to the crank. It will all rotate together if you let it. You’re trying to hold the crank/pulley still and just rotate the bolt… counterclockwise.
Watching this video:
I’m seeing that he did not use a breaker bar held to the ground, and the holder did not move when the bolt was loosen.
Am I missing something? Can I just have a short breaker bar to “hold” the pulley and then use another breaker bar to loosen the nut? Abit confused.
The tool keeping the crank from turning was against something on the car. The picture was so dark I can’t see what.
I don’t know that there is a right way of doing this. Something has to hold the crank so that it can’t turn. Using you legs is a good idea. The muscles of your legs are the strongest muscles on your body.
Would that mean the placement of the breaker bar that is touching the ground is incorrect?
Based on my understanding, one bar has to move anticlockwise and the other clockwise (or just to hold it in place)
From this setup, it seems that the breaker bar on the left will spin clockwise which will hit the bumper once the other spins counterclockwise. Is this true? Unless both turns counterclockwise??
you’re over thinking this man. you’ll spin the breaker bar on the jackstand counterclockwise. The breaker bar resting on the ground there will be the one on the balancer holding tool and it will try to rotate counterclockwise also. However there’s a bunch of concrete under it, so it won’t go anywhere and it will hold the crank/pulley stationary allowing you to loosen the balancer bolt.
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