Honda Accord Earodeck 1996 different axle lengths?

[Jaak Beentjes]

I had bought a new Passenger side Axle for my 1996 Wagon
CE2 5 Speed F20B3 136 Hp ABS

Now my old axle had fallen apart and I had difficulties getting it together again to measure it’s length properly.

Anyway I ordered a new Axle from a website here and went to install it I then noticed it seems shorter then the one that was in it before.
[URL=”http://www.mister-auto.com/cardan/honda-accord-v-aerodeck-ce-2-0-i-ls-16v-136ch_v4296_g13.html”]http://www.mister-auto.com/cardan/honda-accord-v-aerodeck-ce-2-0-i-ls-16v-136ch_v4296_g13.html[/URL]

Is anybody familiar with different passenger side axle lengths?

The replacement I got is a Cevam 7005Z and they state the length is 600mm when I look at the two axles the original seems at least 2 cm longer.

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[Steven Cummings]

How fallen apart is the axle? Can you post a picture of the two side by side? You said you had difficulty putting it together, so this could be one of the problems. The second thing to look at is where could the extra length be had? If the extra length is just at the where the axle nut rests and you have plenty of length for the axle nut anyway, then I wouldn’t worry. BUT if the extra length is along the drive shaft or the transmission side…send it back!

Wow, axles are expensive over there in Europe!

[Jaak Beentjes]

Hi King,

I had put the other axle on the car and after 500Mtr it popped loose so I am now very sure it is the wrong one :unsure:

I have been working on the axle that was fallen apart and managed to get it together again.
(and also put the new one together again)
The difference still seems to be about 20mm at least.

The one I ordered is described for the passenger side as is the one I need.
at this site you fill in the info of you car and the part you need and then it displays the needed item.
The other site that has the axle charged 145 Euro for it (198 USD)
I will send it back but now am at a loss at what axle I should get to replace mine.

Will make a picture tomorrow to show the difference.

[b]Thank you for taking the time to think along and reply,
it is much appreciated as I am at a loss at the moment.[/b]

[Steven Cummings]

They do have two on their site. It’s possible someone grabbed the one that is slightly shorter. Axles shouldn’t “pop” loose. Are there local autoshops where you live? You may have to wait a day or two if it is not in stock, but you would then be able to take your old one into the shop and compare it there at the counter. Your other option is the dealer as they can look up the exact axle based on your VIN. Sometimes a factory would end up using a less common part on a vehicle that isn’t standard by the FSM.

[Jaak Beentjes]

Thanks again King,

I checked the reference code of the axle and it is the code for the longer one. 7005Z (with ABS)

The local shop here (Renault) said they could not(did not wan’t) to help with this.

The 1996 Honda Accord Wagon is build in the US and imported and is pretty rare here.

I could try phoning a Honda dealer and see if they can get the code for it but it is not a normal European model so they may not have the info, will give it a try though.

It popped loose at where the Cardan “flexes”* up and down on the motor side not the wheel side.
*can not think of a better word for it.

[Jaak Beentjes]

Been digging some more and found that the axle on another site is described as being 620mm long.

I am not sure the 20mm difference is what it took to make the axle come loose.

They are charging even a good amount more for the axle
Oscaro axle link

[Steven Cummings]

Unless that 20mm (0.78″ for those Americans reading this) is on the outside axle nut, then yes that will make a HUGE difference. You can walk into the parts department at a dealer with your VIN and if you get lucky with the service rep, they can give you the specs for your car (over the phone they seem less than likely). I’d advise this since there appears to be more than one type and you don’t want to go through this hassle with a second more expensive company.

Eric may know for sure as he’s a Honda Tech than knows these things.

Edit: Glad it fell out on you practically in your driveway and not while you weren’t driving 90KPH! Sucks…but could have been worse.

[Jaak Beentjes]

No the difference is from the length of the axle excluding the thread which on both ones is the same.
Looking at the evidence it seems that the axle they sell for my car on the first site might be for the European Accord and the one on the second site for my actual car.
Specially because Mister Auto says it is 600mm and Oscaro states 620mm.

Been trying to find the OEM part number for the passenger side axle of the 1996 Wagon with ABS online but so far have not found it.

Another issue is that I live in a small remote mountain village and I have not found any proper car parts store anywhere close yet.
We moved here not so long ago so am trying to do this trough the net.
Another thing that does not help me is that I do not really speak French..just a few words lol.
I am from the Netherlands – Holland originally.

[Steven Cummings]

I did a search through NAPA auto parts and for a 1996 Honda Accord Wagon the axle length for the automatic transmission with ABS is 24 9/16″ or 624 mm for the right (passenger) side. There are actually 8 different axle lengths available through NAPA and I think it has to do with the fact there were so many options in 1996.

I’m sorry this has turned out to be a bit of a hassle for you, hopefully you’ll be able to find your best answer soon.

[Jaak Beentjes]

Thank you king much appreciated.

Mine is a 5 speed manual not a Automatic but I think the axle lengths are the same.

I am aware of 4 versions the ones without ABS Left and Right (Pre 96) and with ABS Left and Right.
If they would divide those in Automatic and Manual you would end up with 8 variations.

[Jaak Beentjes]

I am looking at this Napa site now and realize in the US they never had the F20B3.

The F20B3 SOHC non Vtec engine is a destroked F22B2 SOHC non Vtec if I am not mistaking.

I found the one I need, I am 99.9999% sure.

Specially because they are talking about a compressed axle length of 24 9/16 in / 623.88 mm

Napa Accord manual ABS axle

Now if only they had the OEM part number and Oscaro also had the OEM number then I could be 100% sure.

EDIT: wow this axle is half the price here :blink:

[EricTheCarGuy]

The only difference ABS makes is the tone ring for the ABS. If the axle you buy doesn’t have one, you can swap the old one off of your old axle. I say this just as an FYI. Sounds like you’ve got it worked out. Keep us updated on your progress and good luck.

[Jaak Beentjes]

Thanks Eric,

I was aware of this due to one of your video’s.

Unfortunately I have not worked it out yet as I found the right axle on Napa which does not exist here and I doubt they ship to Europe.

I am having trouble with the codes used by each company.
Napa’s codes are different then Mister Auto and Oscaro I had phoned the Honda dealer in this region but could not explain what I needed.

I think my best bet is too find the OEM code for my car somewhere and E-Mail the French car parts suppliers what code of them relates to the OEM code. (Google translate FTW)

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