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    WonkssWonkss
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      2000 grand am 3400

      car runs fine cold but once warm it has misfire..no check engine light seems to mellow out after maybe 1500 2000 rpm

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    • #586958
      ChrisChris
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        Did you read the information listed in the “Idle Issues” thread on the home page? There is a wealth of information on there about diagnosing and fixing idle issues.

        Did you check the basics? i.e. air filters, fuel pressure with a gauge? Check for vacuum leaks?

        #586960
        WonkssWonkss
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          I did the air filter and checked for vacuum leaks could not find any but only with feel and sound as im not sure I wanna use carb cleaner or something may start fire since it only does this when operating temp and not when cold.. I don’t have a gauge to check fuel pressure 🙂

          #586962
          ChrisChris
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            You can also check for vacuum leaks with a spray bottle filled with water. It may not be as accurate as using carb cleaner. I never use carb cleaner when the engine is warm, I always do it when it’s cool and when I start the car up for the first time of the day. This will decrease the fire hazard since the engine and it’s components aren’t hot. Also, a vacuum leak can be found when the engine is hot or cold.

            #586963
            WonkssWonkss
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              would a vacuum leak only affect engine running while its operating temp?

              like I mean one sec its fine then it starts missing temp gauge shows same spot. but its usually within it getting to that spot it starts missing. coolant level has not changed, oil is clean and fresh.

              #586967
              ChrisChris
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                If it’s a vacuum leak that’s causing the misfire it’ll be most noticeable when the engine is the closed loop idle i.e. the engine is up to operating temperature and it’s at the normal idle RPM. The misfire could exist at higher RPM’s it just may not be as noticeable.

                Do keep in mind though that there could be a different issue causing your misfire but vacuum leaks are one of the more popular causes for idle misfires.

                #587068
                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  As suggested, it’s a good idea to read this as many of your questions may be answered.

                  http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-automotive-idle-problems

                  This may also be helpful.

                  http://www.ericthecarguy.com/faq/solving-automotive-performance-issues

                  If you go through all that and don’t find the problem let us know.

                  #587342
                  WonkssWonkss
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                    well water did nothing for misfire.it did however make my service engine soon light flash which wasn’t even lit before.. I believe it started flashing when I cover the coil pack with water not completely sure as everything was pretty much soaked. any ideas..

                    #587437
                    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                      Sounds like you’ve found the problem, the ignition system. Try turning the lights off to confirm.

                      #587474
                      WonkssWonkss
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                        would have to wait for it to be dark outside.im in Canada and no garage so its very cold and snowey 🙂

                        #587501
                        WonkssWonkss
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                          ok went to part source got codes read since service engine soon light was flashing heres what he gave me and are they all related or?

                          p0302,p0403,p0405,p0443,p0449

                          #587770
                          WonkssWonkss
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                            ok went to wrecker and got a ignition coil for cyl 2/5 and replaced and misfire is gone. HooaH

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