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    stefanstefan
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      Hi all. 3-4 or weeks ago i decided to replace the front shock absorber bearings and bushings. Then i went further in replacing the sway bar bushings and rebuild the power steering rack which was and is leaking. I’ve removed the whole front assembly and removed the steering rack. Yesterday, after a looong research on the internet i went to a car parts shop and bought the steering rack repair kit in order to start today replacing the seals. As soon as i removed the boot i went straight into removing the the inner tie rod. Surprise! i couldn’t do it because the nut is perfectly round. I tried to break it loose with a vice and a vice grip, wd-40, penetrating oil and tapping gently with a hammer. Nothing seems to work. My question is: does anybody know if that inner tie rods are supposed to be removed? I was told by somebody that there could kind of special glue between the shaft and the tie rod. Should i cut them and after that drill a new hole in the shaft to mount new rods? I have to mention that i can’t afford to buy a new rack because it’s way too expensive. I will attach a picture with that nut also. Any advice is very welcomed. Thank you for your support :blush:

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      Deven McOmieDeven McOmie
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        I can’t quite tell from the picture. But I think you need to remove it from inside the socket. A few more picture would be helpful. Also what is the year make and model of the vehicle?

        #506775
        stefanstefan
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          Yes, sorry. I forgot to mention this : it’s a Ford fiesta’96 1.3l 44 kw. Here are few more pics, hope they’re not too large.

          #506782
          stefanstefan
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            another solution would be to grind that nut somehow i can grip it with something cuz obviously now it’s slipping. but, again, if they used any type of adhesive it will all be in vain

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            college mancollege man
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              #506846
              stefanstefan
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                thanks college man but i know that tool and nope, it doesn’t help. that nut which that guy unscrewed with that tool, mine is..perfectly round. like halp a sphere with nothing secure it and when i use the vice grip ( or visegrip lol me noob) it’s slipping 🙁

                #506852
                college mancollege man
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                  Pipe wrench or vise.maybe that style is non serviceable? :unsure:

                  #506855
                  Deven McOmieDeven McOmie
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                    Ok So see if this helps. Turn the steering wheel all the way to the side opposite the side you’re working on to fully exposed the tie rod socket. (as the rack and pinion are out of the car just press on the right side of the assembly to extend the left side all the way out.) Remove the locking pin by striking it sharply with a punch and hammer. Place an adjustable wrench snugly over the geared/notched portion of the steering rack for grip. Then use another wrench to remove the inner socket lock nut by turning it counterclockwise. Unscrew the inner socket assembly from the outer tie rod end. Install the new inner socket by reversing the above procedures.

                    #506872
                    scott37300scott37300
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                      They make a couple different tools for tie rods with no flats. http://www.tooltopia.com/lisle-46600.aspx this one is just like the long tube with the interchangable sizes of flats but you tighten down the set screws and then turn the tube. http://www.amazon.com/Cal-Van-Tools-946-Profile-Inner/dp/B0066PI154/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1362613726&sr=1-3&keywords=tie+rod+tool, You tighten it down on the round part and then use an extension and ratchet to remove the tie rod.

                      #507067
                      stefanstefan
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                        i went today with the rack to a service and ask them to break those nuts loose. they drilled 2 little holes on each nut and used a tool like the universal one that scott37300 posted. Now, Do you have any idea what’s the name of the wrench that works on the bellow nut?

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                        scott37300scott37300
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                          Looks like you can use a face spanner wrench like some of these, http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_2?rh=k%3Aadjustable+face+spanner+wrench%2Ci%3Aautomotive&keywords=adjustable+face+spanner+wrench&ie=UTF8&qid=1362718080. You just have to make sure to get one that the pins fit in the slots that are there.

                          #507136
                          celticbhoycelticbhoy
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                            Working on fords always gives me the biggest headache. With that you could probably use a hammer and point/brass drift to get it out.

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