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    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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      My welding got a lot better during this project. Not perfect, still need to practice more, but I feel I have the core concept not. I’m also learning to dial in the arc volts which seems to be key to getting good welds.

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      Dave TidmanDave Tidman
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        Hey Eric, no need to slag (OK, bad pun) yourself over your welding skills. Welding is not as easy as it may look. Someone in your YouTube comment section gave some good advice on settings and stuff. That last weld did look pretty good!

        If you want some training (and I’m sure you don’t really have time for this, but I’ll throw it out anyway), sometimes community colleges have short (3 to 4 weeks) welding courses you may be able to audit. It seems like you may have a lot more welding in front of you with this project.

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        AKGCAKGC
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          as far as the door. have you tried loosening the latch and adjusting it that way?

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          EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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            [quote=”AKGC” post=141964]as far as the door. have you tried loosening the latch and adjusting it that way?[/quote]

            I did mention in the video that the door could use some adjustment. Honestly, I’m not worried about that. It only happens when it’s on the lift. I can really feel how solid the car is now. Much better than before. I’m happy with that result. If I need to, I’ll put in a roll cage and be done with it.

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            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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              [quote=”dtidman” post=141963]Hey Eric, no need to slag (OK, bad pun) yourself over your welding skills. Welding is not as easy as it may look. Someone in your YouTube comment section gave some good advice on settings and stuff. That last weld did look pretty good!

              If you want some training (and I’m sure you don’t really have time for this, but I’ll throw it out anyway), sometimes community colleges have short (3 to 4 weeks) welding courses you may be able to audit. It seems like you may have a lot more welding in front of you with this project.[/quote]

              I think I grasp the concept now. I think what I really need is more practice. I’m working on getting some scrap metal that I can do that very thing with.

              Thanks for your input.

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              AKGCAKGC
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                if you do put in a roll cage. Remember Moly steel, not chrome-moly steel.

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                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  [quote=”AKGC” post=141978]if you do put in a roll cage. Remember Moly steel, not chrome-moly steel.[/quote]

                  Will do, thanks.

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                  WilliamWilliam
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                    Just watched this video today. It’s really a hard thing to describe when something “just clicks” and I know exactly what you mean. The same thing happened to me. I took a welding class and I had terrible welds, then one day, about halfway through the semester, I just got it. It was an awesome feeling. I even kept the welds as trophies. 😆

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                    Kazuo KuroiKazuo Kuroi
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                      Warning: I’m not a body guy so I may be off track here, but wouldn’t it have made sense to tack weld the frame connectors with the car’s suspension loaded and then lift it up to finish the job? I would think that doing it on the lift may have locked the chassis into a flexed position, since this is a unibody car and not a full frame one.

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                      EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                        [quote=”Kazuo” post=148543]Warning: I’m not a body guy so I may be off track here, but wouldn’t it have made sense to tack weld the frame connectors with the car’s suspension loaded and then lift it up to finish the job? I would think that doing it on the lift may have locked the chassis into a flexed position, since this is a unibody car and not a full frame one.[/quote]

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                        Kazuo KuroiKazuo Kuroi
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                          I’m sorry for not being clear – I meant the extensions you installed, wouldn’t it have been ideal to tack weld those in place then finish the job up on the lift? I know you said in this video that you wouldn’t bind it up, but I wasn’t worried about that, more that you would have had better results tack welding it on the jack stands and then finishing on the lift. However, its your car – and I quite like this project and think you did a good job, I would have just done it differently, and I respect the way you went about this, even if I don’t agree entirely.

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                          divide_by_zerodivide_by_zero
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                            I know when it comes to welding, I do all my practicing on aluminum so when I go to steel it is much easier. Everything is trickier with aluminum and it takes more practice – have you been just MIG welding or doing any TIG welding? I only TIG weld myself.

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                            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                              [quote=”Kazuo” post=148650]I’m sorry for not being clear – I meant the extensions you installed, wouldn’t it have been ideal to tack weld those in place then finish the job up on the lift? I know you said in this video that you wouldn’t bind it up, but I wasn’t worried about that, more that you would have had better results tack welding it on the jack stands and then finishing on the lift. However, its your car – and I quite like this project and think you did a good job, I would have just done it differently, and I respect the way you went about this, even if I don’t agree entirely.[/quote]

                              I believe I proved in the video that putting it on jack stands and tacking it into place would make no difference on the outcome.

                              The more research I’ve done on this, the more I’ve come to know that these vehicles are notorious for body flex. It’s inherit to the design. I stand by everything I did with these frame connectors. It may not have solved the door issue, but it rides 100x better since I installed them. I have no regrets with anything I did installing those connectors, other than I wish I was a better welder at the time.

                              Thanks for your input.

                              #851142
                              Ronnie hopperRonnie hopper
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                                Hi Eric,

                                I was curious as to if you had considered doing thru floor frame connectors on the Fairmont. It would mean more welding , but I think it would yield a stiffer frame. Just a thought.

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                                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                  [quote=”Gearjammer1″ post=158644]Hi Eric,

                                  I was curious as to if you had considered doing thru floor frame connectors on the Fairmont. It would mean more welding , but I think it would yield a stiffer frame. Just a thought.[/quote]

                                  Actually I’m considering a roll cage. Let’s just say the structure of the 1979 Fairmont could use all the help it can get.

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                                  Ronnie hopperRonnie hopper
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                                    Thanks for the response,
                                    As a former owner of an original rare fairmont,
                                    Mine was the inline 4 . I know how flexible the bodies were. I had hoped someday they would make a turbo for mine, didn’t happen…

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