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    DrewDrew
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      Greetings to all,

      I’m reposting this in case I put it in the wrong category at first, but I have a 2010 Honda Pilot Touring and my battery is being drained. I’ve performed a parasitic draw test as demonstrated by ETCG and, unless I’m missing one, I’ve pulled every fuse in the 4 fuse boxes. The draw was right around 2.58 amps through the entire test. I then disconnected the radio thinking the auto-theft feature was producing the draw. In the end, I took the car to the dealer b/c the battery is replaced for free, which they did after draining it. I was told their test should have found a short.

      Here I am, two days after a new battery, with jumper cables and only 9 Amps on the battery. I can’t believe it’s a bad battery. I believe there is a short, particularly in the rear dome light. It has been acting funny lately, and since it’s a push-to-on type light, I can’t know if it’s on, or on when the door is open. So, I removed the fixture from the hood liner. While at work, I turned the dome lights “off” completely to see if there’s a drain.

      Question is, apart from a parasitic draw test, how can I find a short in the electrical system. Esp if there is some sort of feature in the vehicle, like auto-theft, that makes a continuous draw on the battery thus making the draw test useless? Is there a better type of shop to go to for a diagnosis and discovery other than the dealership?

      Thanks in advance!

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    • #878767
      CharlesCharles
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        There is a problem doing parasitic draw tests on modern vehicles! Some of the draws are on timers that will take 5 minutes or so to time out and reach the off state current draw of about 40-80ma. Redo your tests and don’t forget the alternator may be directly connected to the battery. I have attached a link to a site where you can get a power distribution diagram for your vehicle. You may also consider getting a scan with an advanced scan tool that can check DTC’s that don’t set the MIL.

        http://www.bbbind.com

        #878772
        Dave TidmanDave Tidman
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          Another issue with modern cars is that pulling a fuse may cause a number of modules to wake up. This has caused a change in how to do a parasitic draw test, now the voltage drop is measured across the fuses. See this video by Humble Mechanic:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRcj1fQcWwU

          #878779
          twiggytwiggy
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            Have you ruled out a charging issue? Try measuring the battery voltage while the car is running- it should be over 13.5V

            #878785
            DrewDrew
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              With a two day old battery in the car, would a charging issue drain the battery while the vehicle is parked for 9 hours?

              #878800
              twiggytwiggy
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                If you drove it for any amount to time without a working charging system it would very quickly drain your battery leaving you without enough to start it next time you attempt to drive it.

                #878806
                DrewDrew
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                  Thanks to everyone for chiming in! Due to time constraints and needing to get kids to school, I went to my dealer for a diagnostic test. My dome light did have a short in the switch but that wasn’t the issue. Turned out to be the A/C clutch relay. I’m not sure I’d have figured that out but hope it’s done for. Sure learned a lot though. Really appreciate the community here to bounce stuff off of!

                  #878821
                  Billy AndrewsBilly
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                    Thanks for posting the resolution.

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