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    EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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      I’ve never been so NOT excited about owning a vehicle as I am about this one. No matter, it’ll make for some good video someday I’m sure.

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    • #854675
      Kazuo KuroiKazuo Kuroi
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        Any ideas on loaner car you’d own? I’d recommend something relatively low maintenance, like a 1st gen Mazda 3 ( smooth 4-speed transmission, the Mazda Z engine has a timing chain and well known for getting to high mileages, and you can find them inexpensively, and parts are plentiful since it shares some with the Ford Focus and the Volvo S40. )

        #854692
        MikeMike
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          Jeep: Just Excuse Every Problem

          Maybe you should go the Mythbusters route and blow the damn thing up for the entertainment value. A lot more fun than skinning your knuckles trying to rehabilitate what could be a lost cause with minimal profit potential.

          It would be a pain in the neck, but you could try parting it out to at least recoup your $500 investment. If the leather isn’t torn, there might be some demand for that alone. Or, depending on your sponsors, it could be an opportunity to try out some leather renewal products.

          #854713
          luke4010luke4010
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            Eric, I seem to remember something I read when I was replacing the 4.7 V8 in my friend’s 2002 Grand Cherokee about how the 4.7 can’t be turned over by the crank pulley, only with the starter. I believe they said it was because of the three timing chains since the 4.7 is OHC. What happens when you try turning it over with the starter?

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            EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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              [quote=”Kazuo” post=162141]Any ideas on loaner car you’d own? I’d recommend something relatively low maintenance, like a 1st gen Mazda 3 ( smooth 4-speed transmission, the Mazda Z engine has a timing chain and well known for getting to high mileages, and you can find them inexpensively, and parts are plentiful since it shares some with the Ford Focus and the Volvo S40. )[/quote]

              Defiantly not a Mazda around here. They tend to rust up pretty bad and are difficult to service as they age. I was thinking a Honda Odyssey similar to the 2001 I used to own. Swap out the transmission and it’s good to go. It would make for a good video as well since it’s such a common issue.

              I can’t stress enough however that all of this won’t take place until after I complete the Fairmont.

              #854723
              EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                [quote=”Evil-i” post=162158]Jeep: Just Excuse Every Problem

                Maybe you should go the Mythbusters route and blow the damn thing up for the entertainment value. A lot more fun than skinning your knuckles trying to rehabilitate what could be a lost cause with minimal profit potential.

                It would be a pain in the neck, but you could try parting it out to at least recoup your $500 investment. If the leather isn’t torn, there might be some demand for that alone. Or, depending on your sponsors, it could be an opportunity to try out some leather renewal products.[/quote]

                Many have suggested the possibility of a dropped valve seat. If that’s the case and the bottom end is OK. It would just be a matter of getting the heads reconditioned. Less work for me and I could get it up and running sooner. I may look into that at some point.

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                EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                  [quote=”luke4010″ post=162179]Eric, I seem to remember something I read when I was replacing the 4.7 V8 in my friend’s 2002 Grand Cherokee about how the 4.7 can’t be turned over by the crank pulley, only with the starter. I believe they said it was because of the three timing chains since the 4.7 is OHC. What happens when you try turning it over with the starter?[/quote]

                  I don’t know of any engine that can’t be turned over by the crank. Think about it, how would that be possible? If you can’t rotate it, the starter sure can’t.

                  This engine has a mechanical issue that won’t allow the engine to rotate fully. It DOES rotate, it just reaches a point where it stops. Turn it the other way and it will rotate till it stops again.

                  Some suggested a valve seat that may have dropped out. I think that might be plausible. Worth looking into anyway.

                  #854730
                  luke4010luke4010
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                    [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=162190][quote=”luke4010″ post=162179]Eric, I seem to remember something I read when I was replacing the 4.7 V8 in my friend’s 2002 Grand Cherokee about how the 4.7 can’t be turned over by the crank pulley, only with the starter. I believe they said it was because of the three timing chains since the 4.7 is OHC. What happens when you try turning it over with the starter?[/quote]

                    I don’t know of any engine that can’t be turned over by the crank. Think about it, how would that be possible? If you can’t rotate it, the starter sure can’t.

                    This engine has a mechanical issue that won’t allow the engine to rotate fully. It DOES rotate, it just reaches a point where it stops. Turn it the other way and it will rotate till it stops again.

                    Some suggested a valve seat that may have dropped out. I think that might be plausible. Worth looking into anyway.[/quote]

                    That makes sense. I just remember reading that somewhere, my bad. The valve seat dropping is a VERY common problem on these 4.7s. That was the problem with my friends engine. The 3rd cylinder dropped a valve seat. It still started and ran though, just ticked like crazy and wouldn’t fire on the 3rd cylinder.

                    #854775
                    Kazuo KuroiKazuo Kuroi
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                      [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=162188]Defiantly(sic) not a Mazda around here. They tend to rust up pretty bad and are difficult to service as they age.[/quote]

                      Keep forgetting you live in Ohio, AKA road salt central. My 2008 3 has no rust except on some suspension parts, and I cleaned that off today with a wire wheel and paint. I don’t know if you’ve serviced a Mazda 3 but as far as engine-transaxle-type motors go the motor has a lot of room in the engine bay for getting to stuff, they don’t have many common problems besides stuck open thermostats and intake runner solenoids going bad, neither of which is necessarily dangerous, and I’ve been surprised at how little work mine has needed to stay roadworthy. But okay.

                      [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=162188]I was thinking a Honda Odyssey similar to the 2001 I used to own. Swap out the transmission and it’s good to go. It would make for a good video as well since it’s such a common issue.[/quote]

                      Besides their weak transmissions, I simply don’t see a minivan as being practical for FiF people who don’t normally drive a car that big, plus the fuel economy isn’t stellar, and I’m hesitant to recommend a car that has known problems and get beaten on. If you do consider non-minivan cars, I’d recommend either a big sedan or a station wagon, like the LS400 that is known for being extremely reliable ( See Matt Farahs Million-Mile Lexus ) or maybe even another Subaru Outback. In the latter especially, you appeal to both people needing extra storage space, and people needing to haul kids or other people, but watch out for those cardboard headgaskets.

                      [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=162188]I can’t stress enough however that all of this won’t take place until after I complete the Fairmont.[/quote]

                      Of course, take your time and get the Fairmont up and running. Looking forward to the V8 rebuild vids.

                      #854800
                      EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                        I think a minivan is the perfect vehicle for a loaner. Think of a mom with kids. Also, have you ever seen an old person try to get in and out of a low car? Minivans are easy to drive and are better on gas than a V8 4WD hands down. Not to mention, I have a ton of spare parts for Honda minivans.

                        #854815
                        Kazuo KuroiKazuo Kuroi
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                          It depends on your clientele I suppose. Just for reference, at the shop I most recently did work at, we used early 2000’s Camrys as loaners.

                          If you want to use a minivan, your shop your rules man. If I was in your position, though, I’d go for a station wagon or a large sedan as I said, The LS400’s combine fuel economy, BTW, is better than an Odyssey of the same vintage, same with a Subaru wagon. But with fuel prices low as they are that is a very secondary concern. It just seems a little excessive if, for instance, you get someone who drives a small car that gets 30MPG citynormally and they have to go to a van as a loaner that is going to cost roughly twice as much in fuel around town. Something that my old shop had to consider. Of course, we had people with vans and SUVs complain they were too small for their needs, and thus we ended up partnering with a local rental company to offer nice discounts if they didn’t want to go for the $10/day loaner fee from us.

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                          EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                            [quote=”Kazuo” post=162281]It depends on your clientele I suppose. Just for reference, at the shop I most recently did work at, we used early 2000’s Camrys as loaners.

                            If you want to use a minivan, your shop your rules man. If I was in your position, though, I’d go for a station wagon or a large sedan as I said, The LS400’s combine fuel economy, BTW, is better than an Odyssey of the same vintage, same with a Subaru wagon. But with fuel prices low as they are that is a very secondary concern. It just seems a little excessive if, for instance, you get someone who drives a small car that gets 30MPG citynormally and they have to go to a van as a loaner that is going to cost roughly twice as much in fuel around town. Something that my old shop had to consider. Of course, we had people with vans and SUVs complain they were too small for their needs, and thus we ended up partnering with a local rental company to offer nice discounts if they didn’t want to go for the $10/day loaner fee from us.[/quote]

                            You keep leaving 2 things out of the equation. I have spare parts for Odysseys, and I was a Honda tech for many years. This means I know what problems may come up and fix them before they become problems. Not to mention, I could also use it as a ‘camping van’.

                            I have my reasons for making that choice. However, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. First, I need to fix the Jeep. It may be some time before that happens. Then I need to sell it. Although the guy that has the trucking company that parks trucks next to my shop is very interested. Then I need to find a loaner vehicle.

                            In the time it may take to do all of that, something else might come up and this entire discussion would be moot. Remember I have a Fairmont to build.

                            #854853
                            zerozero
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                              [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=162266]I think a minivan is the perfect vehicle for a loaner. Think of a mom with kids. Also, have you ever seen an old person try to get in and out of a low car? Minivans are easy to drive and are better on gas than a V8 4WD hands down. Not to mention, I have a ton of spare parts for Honda minivans.[/quote]

                              That’s why my parents got rid of their Saturn SC1. At 60 years old it was just too damn low. Even at 30, some days it felt like I was trying to get off the ground.

                              A minivan would be a nearly perfect option as nobody would be able to say that they wouldn’t have room for all their passengers with it.

                              #854859
                              Kazuo KuroiKazuo Kuroi
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                                [quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=162312]You keep leaving 2 things out of the equation. I have spare parts for Odysseys, and I was a Honda tech for many years. This means I know what problems may come up and fix them before they become problems. Not to mention, I could also use it as a ‘camping van’.

                                I have my reasons for making that choice. However, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. First, I need to fix the Jeep. It may be some time before that happens. Then I need to sell it. Although the guy that has the trucking company that parks trucks next to my shop is very interested. Then I need to find a loaner vehicle.

                                In the time it may take to do all of that, something else might come up and this entire discussion would be moot. Remember I have a Fairmont to build.[/quote]

                                Spares for the car does help, I’ll give you that, and you’ve owned one and have brought up plenty of good points.

                                And of course. As I said, looking forward to your Fairmont.

                                #855067
                                AJ BrownAJ Brown
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                                  I had a 1993 Grand Cherokee 5.2l V8, 303k on it. Original Engine and transmission. I guess I got one of the good ones. :). AS far as a replacement shop truck, I vote a 1996-2000 Chevy K2500. Since that what I drive and would love to see how-to video’s on that model truck.

                                  Keep up the awesome video’s!

                                  #855104
                                  EricTheCarGuy 1EricTheCarGuy
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                                    [quote=”MRAJB” post=162532]I had a 1993 Grand Cherokee 5.2l V8, 303k on it. Original Engine and transmission. I guess I got one of the good ones. :). AS far as a replacement shop truck, I vote a 1996-2000 Chevy K2500. Since that what I drive and would love to see how-to video’s on that model truck.

                                    Keep up the awesome video’s![/quote]

                                    I’ll keep that in mind.

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