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    slipknot1488slipknot1488
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      Ok guys, I’m working on an electrical problem on my mom’s 2003 Mercury Sable wagon. Same as the Ford Taurus wagon. She has the electronic automatic temperature control unit. I need to make some fused jumper wires but I don’t know what size fuse I should be using. I have the wiring diagrams. I need to jump terminals on two sets of connectors on the remote climate control module. Any ideas what size fuse I should be using? Or a minimum at best? Any help would be appreciated. Let me know if you need more info.

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      slipknot1488slipknot1488
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        Thanks for the reply. I actually have seen those videos with Dwayne from realfixesrealfast. I know how to read them well enough to understand the circuit, I’m now trying to learn how to apply what I know. My original question was about what size fuse to use with a fused jumper wire because that’s what the service manual said to do. I knew the circuit was protected through the 15A fuse and the 10A fuse when in run but I didn’t know if there was some other reason they wanted you to protect the circuit from the jumper. I assume it’s in case you jump the wrong pins. Thanks again for the reply, I’m going to work on it later and I’ll re post to see if I can’t close out this topic.

        #530893
        slipknot1488slipknot1488
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          What was confusing me though, and you probably gathered it from my posts, was the signal that comes from the PCM into the remote climate control module. I should have looked at it a little more thoroughly but I don’t mind asking questions about electrical. I know I have a lot more to learn about it.

          #530959
          twiggytwiggy
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            [quote=”slipknot1488″ post=63920]As long as I get the right pins I shouldn’t need a fused jumper, right?[/quote]

            I wouldn’t bother making a fused jumper, as you stated, the hot feeds are already fused protected.

            But I would unplug the connector to the actuator before powering it to make it move to prevent a chance of damaging the controller board.

            #531007
            slipknot1488slipknot1488
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              I haven’t gotten a chance to finish the project yet. could i jump the power side and then just supply ground with the power probe instead of using two jumper leads?

              #531017
              davedave
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                I believe the correct answer to your question is “whatever is easiest for you.”

                In either case, the result should be the same.

                #531113
                slipknot1488slipknot1488
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                  Well, I performed my testing and the actuator doesn’t move in either direction. I removed it and the door itself isn’t bound up at all, it moves freely. The wiring in the circuit seems fine, there’s power and ground where it should be. I think I can safely assume it’s the actuator. Thanks for all of the help.

                  #531115
                  davedave
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                    One other thing you could do is test a known good actuator and see if you can get it to move via jumping directly to power and ground. This will help ensure that your testing methods themselves are sound.

                    #531236
                    Herman Tyler Jr.Herman Tyler Jr.
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                      I’ve been really busy today and couldn’t respond to slipnots post. But when I did get to see his post and found out that he had a power probe, I’m paralyzed and almost fell out my bed. That tool alone is a complement to his efforts. He could have run continuity test on the motor, and supplied voltage to the motor, all with the least amount of effort. “WoW” :whistle:

                      #531313
                      slipknot1488slipknot1488
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                        Ultimately that’s what I ended up doing but I was afraid I would fry the actuator by doing that. Turns out the actuator was already shot.

                        #531345
                        davedave
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                          in some vehicles, you need to use a scan tool to induce an actuator re-learn procedure. i am not sure if your vehicle is one of these. in some vehicles the computer can detect a change in amperage to indicate when an actuator has reached its full travel. of course, computer re-learning is not necessary in vacuum operated HVAC assemblies.

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                          slipknot1488slipknot1488
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                            Yea that wasn’t necessary. One of my good friends has access to a really expensive scan tool at his shop so it wouldn’t have been a problem. Everything seems to be fine though, the car now has heat and A/C and the actuator moves it both directions. Thanks again for your help and knowledge, I appreciate it very much.

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