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  • #664714
    Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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      When the carbon burns down like that it usually means too much voltage is going to the coil. Adding a ballast resistor solves this. Are you using a stock coil or performance coil? If you’re running a stock coil you will need to add a ballast resistor. If it is a performance coil, they do not usually use ballast resistors (unless the mfr recommends it), but you need to make sure it is compatible with the distributor.

      #664738
      SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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        The coil is the 8145 coil (the right one for the 52100 dizzy)

        #664740
        SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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          Did a little digging around and the Distributor and coil I’m using do not require a ballast resistor, here is what I found….

          “Note- Some older vehicles are equipped with a ballast
          resistor or a resistance wire. These cannot be used with
          this distributor. Bypass or eliminate the ballast resistor if
          your vehicle is equipped with one. To check for a resistance
          wire, use a voltmeter to verify that when the engine is
          running that the COIL POSITIVE TERMINAL reads within 1 volt
          of the battery voltage. If the voltage difference is more than
          1 volt, the wire needs to be replaced. When bypassing a
          ballast resistor or eliminating a resistance wire, use at least
          a 14 gauge automotive grade copper wire from the COIL
          POSITIVE ( + ) to the starter solenoid or a switch terminal in
          the fuse box”

          #664743
          Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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            Another thing to check would be the gap between the center of the rotor and the carbon button. If there is an air gap there the spark jumping across the gap will burn off the button. There should be no gap. Always bend the tab on the center contact up (gently) so that there is spring force to hold the tab against the button. Aside from that, poor grounding is another cause. You may need to improve or expand the grounding scheme.

            #664767
            SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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              Actually the “carbon button” is solid with no spring….

              #664769
              Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                I know there is no spring. The ‘spring force’ I was referring to was the act of bending the rotor’s center contact tab upwards such that when pressed against the carbon button deflection is caused.

                #664772
                SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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                  I think you’re right, upon some more digging around I found out that you’re supposed to bend the tab slightly to make a firm contact with the button to tab….

                  Thanks, I’l try it with the new cap…

                  #664773
                  SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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                    One more thing, if I were to check ground wires where would be the easiest place to check?

                    #664800
                    Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                      I don’t think your issue requires ‘checking’ the grounds. When I mentioned grounds before, I was speaking more to insufficient ground. Most performance and hot rodding manuals recommend increasing the wire gauge of main and engine grounds, and adding additional grounding wires to the head(s). While beefing up your grounding scheme cannot hurt, I have the feeling your cap issue lies with the rotor contact and carbon button as previously discussed.

                      #664805
                      BillBill
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                        First of all you need to make sure that the coil wire terminal is making good contact with the wire core inside the wire. A bad plug or plug wire will also cause high resistance and can cause the problem you’re having as well as too much gap between the rotor contact and the carbon tip in the cap. I believe that the coil wire is not making good contact in the coil tower and is arcing in there.

                        #664819
                        SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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                          [quote=”wysetech” post=137599]First of all you need to make sure that the coil wire terminal is making good contact with the wire core inside the wire. A bad plug or plug wire will also cause high resistance and can cause the problem you’re having as well as too much gap between the rotor contact and the carbon tip in the cap. I believe that the coil wire is not making good contact in the coil tower and is arcing in there.[/quote]

                          It’s a fairly new coil wire, also, would dialectic grease help the problem?

                          #664858
                          Ryan WoffordRyan Wofford
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                            I agree with wysetech on his thought on the wire may not making good contact with the tower. my guess is that maybe it didn’t snap all the down when you installed it, dielectric grease would help but only put the grease on the plastic part of the tower. it might let it slip all the way down instead of the rubber grabbing on the plastic and preventing it from sticking

                            #664870
                            SDMAN1981SDMAN1981
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                              When you guys say “tower” are you talking about the top of the coil where the coil wire goes into?

                              #664878
                              Andrew PhillipsAndrew Phillips
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                                Yes, and also the corresponding parts of the distributor cap where the coil wire and spark plug wires attach.

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