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I’m wondering if now isn’t a great opportunity to pickup one of these cars for very cheap. My county doesn’t require OBD-II emissions compliance, so I would have no need to have the car “updated.” The fuel efficiency on these vehicles is enticing.
I have also thought that now or very soon would be a good time to buy as the prices may fall dramatically until VW regain public confidence.
I wouldn’t count on deep price reductions.
The price of GM vehicles didn’t plummet during their ignition switch fiasco, and those cars were known for killing their owners. A bit of cheating with emission regulations is nothing, in comparison.
There is a pretty good discussion on all of this (from the engineering perspective) on the following podcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHLbmFWr-M
Skip ahead to 22:25 to get to the VW stuff, although the safety engineer from Honda (first segment) is also pretty interesting.
i think greed maybe a part in Diesel Gate but I don’t think that’s the whole story. I believe the other part of the equation is the over regulation of The EpA on
car makers. Every time a new set of fuel economy and emissions come down from regulatory agencies it costs these companies millions. Volkswagon probably thought that by cheating they could save money and make more money, and at the same time keep their pricing competitive to other car makers who make diesel cars. I’m not saying that Volkswagon did this to be benevolent but they have to consider the final cost to their customer.Volkswagon was wrong in the situation but I think there were mitigating factors such as over regulation and the burden it puts on everyone involved in auto making. When you have a group of people making regulations who know nothing about auto manufacturing it turns out bad for everyone concerned.
Big money in play and any competetor can sabotage the other. I agree with Eric. Our lifestyle is the problem. And everyone is so addicted on the system of mass market. I would like to be in the middle of the topic but…. People in US would love diesels because of good mpg. But I can see that petrol engines you have in the states are mostly 2.5 and up. Do you realy need that much, speed or torque, power from an engine or to have a big car? There are cars with 1.4 or 1.6 petrol engines going 50 mpg, in my expirience Peugeot and Citroen for example, and probably some of the japanese vehicles. Erics Vigor is a 2.5 and he says it has decent mpgs, but it could have been 1.5. Also, in my country it is common to put in the trunk a tank with Liquefied Petroleum Gas (LPG) that costs twice as less with almost same mpgs and less polution. For example in my contry 1 galon of petrol costs 4.8 USD, and 1 galon of LPG is 2.51 USD (if I calculated corectly). Afcourse, you need a certificate for that and uses a part of your trunk.
Generaly, combustion engines need to go. 100 years of the same technology :ohmy: And also I would like to hear Erics opinion on Tesla cars in an ETCG1 video.
I Have an LPG tank the the spare wheel well of my boot. It’s the cheep way to drive in the UK and Europe, Not sure about the States. It’s also very common in Tokyo taxi’s.
In Europe LPG makes perfect sense.
95% of diesels in cars in the UK fail to make the Euro5 or Euro6 standards in real world tests, not Just VW and they are not the worst. This is not the end of this.
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