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Long story short, I was trying to accelerate hard in my 1999 Corolla, and I downshifted into 2nd at about 70 mph (didn’t realize how fast I was going). I watched as the tach instantly zipped up to 8k (redline is 6k), thought “oh shit”and kicked in the clutch again, but it was too late. The engine stalled. No bang or anything, just stalled. So, still going about 65 mph, I tried to restart the car using the key, nothing. Put it in 5th, released the clutch, nothing. I managed to coast safely to the side of the road in neutral, and I popped the hood. It smelled heavily of clutch– later I realized this was due to my attempts to restart using 5th. I tried starting with the key, and the starter sounded like it really was trying, but couldn’t spin the engine. I put the car in 5th and tried just pushing it, and it reached a point where the engine just wouldn’t spin anymore, going either direction. So, does it sound like the engine is seized, or something else? There’s no hole in the block, so I didn’t throw a rod or anything, but it’s certainly possible there’s internal damage. What do you guys think?
Also, the shop I had it towed to is closed over the weekend, so I’m considering going there today and removing the oil pan just to see if there’s any metal chunks in it. Should I even bother?
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[quote=”dohc-kindaguy” post=59373]If I had the money though I’d have a supercharged buick to, but I can’t afford the gas :P[/quote]
I figure gas will only get more expensive, so if I want to have some fun now’s the time. Besides, the Ultra gets about 28 highway, so that’s not too bad.
If I had $5-8k, I’d get an International Scout II, which can occasionally achieve 15 MPG if you push it, so… :whistle:
[quote=”dohc-kindaguy” post=59375]Nah, only some fords, The zetec engine has proven bulletproof, I’ve seen them at almost 300,000 miles… But like I said to run away from the SPI very fast, engine WILL drop a valve seat! It could be 60,000 miles, it could be 150,000 miles,but it WILL drop a valve seat, no way around it!
Heck even honda has there years, the 2006 and 2007 civic have problems with cracking engine block, it’s not the company, it’s the car… even chevy sometimes makes some nice cars.[/quote]
I dunno one engine from the next so you saying Zetec is good and SPI is bad dont mean anything to me i wouldnt know which one was what even if i was to see it.
[quote=”lifeinhd” post=59376]I figure gas will only get more expensive, so if I want to have some fun now’s the time. Besides, the Ultra gets about 28 highway, so that’s not too bad.
If I had $5-8k, I’d get an International Scout II, which can occasionally achieve 15 MPG if you push it, so… :whistle: [/quote]
Gas is $11.50 USD in Europe so why are we complaining on gas prices? Europe hasnt seen our prices since the 80s.^ It’s stamped right on the valve cover 😉
Aluminum valve cover marked “SPI” BAD
Plastic valve cover marked “FORD ZETEC 16v” good
Covered in wiring and I mean COVERED with no words on it, is duratec, basically a refined zetec to keep up with emissions…Plastic silver valve cover marked SVT- you hit the jackpot, this puppy is a beefed up Zetec making 170 horses (no turbo), mated to a 6speed transmission with a Limited Slip Differential and racing suspension straight off of the assembly line 😉
but I’m not saying to get a focus, It’s just one of many great options that you can at a good price that I just happen to own and fell in love with. Open minds are the key 😉
If I had $5-8k, I’d get an International Scout II, which can occasionally achieve 15 MPG if you push it, so… :whistle:
Oh god, lol, It’d have to be a truck for that kind of mpg, I mean, one that I could actually make use of for towing, hauling, working, then when the days done, off road off course and all that fun stuff 😛
[quote=”dohc-kindaguy” post=59384]Oh god, lol, It’d have to be a truck for that kind of mpg, I mean, one that I could actually make use of for towing, hauling, working, then when the days done, off road off course and all that fun stuff :P[/quote]
Well, they did do a truck, but I’d rather have the SUV. Especially with the 3.6L Nissan SD300T (though they only made that for 1980, which has the worst-looking grille, so I’d have to swap in one from a 77). After all, how many people can say they own a full-size two-door orange convertible SUV with a diesel engine, a 4 speed manual, a front bench seat, and the ability to offroad anywhere? :blink:
Oh ya, and the diesel should be capable of 20mpg 😆
Yeah, they used to make a whole lot more though, my grandpa actually has a 1961 international pickup on his farm, hasn’t ran in years, though when it was parked in the 70s-80’s it did… It’s long past rescue now though, otherwise I’d use it as a project car… 🙁
Infact International does still make some smaller (non-industrial) engines… The ford navistar hd idi was built by international, the power stroke of all kinds from the 4 cylinders used in the UK to the big 7.3 and 6.9 here are built by international.
In someway I think international has something to do with cummins, but not sure how they are tied in… if at all… But I think they original i6 engine designed was designed by international and then sold it to cummins…
I dunno, I’ve never researched these to much, I just happen to work around diesel mechanics who talk allot…
[quote=”dohc-kindaguy” post=59390]Yeah, they used to make a whole lot more though, my grandpa actually has a 1961 international pickup on his farm, hasn’t ran in years, though when it was parked in the 70s-80’s it did… It’s long past rescue now though, otherwise I’d use it as a project car… :([/quote]
Tractors and heavy duty trucks were their specialty, but they built lighter-duty trucks and of course SUVs as well.
Infact International does still make some smaller (non-industrial) engines… The ford navistar hd idi was built by international
Navistar IS International– technically their full name is Navistar International Corporation. They changed their name sometime in the 80s as they were going bankrupt and selling off divisions.
In someway I think international has something to do with cummins, but not sure how they are tied in… if at all… But I think they original i6 engine designed was designed by international and then sold it to cummins…
They did indeed work with Ford on the 6.9 IDI (and the bulletproof 7.3), but idk about cummins??? :huh:
LOL Im so sorry man I hate to laugh but I bought a 82 Toyota Corolla Stationwagon for a kid (200 bucks body rusted to heck but the engine tran was great and rock solid running, thing was a beast too.) Anyway it was just a standard five speed…He did pretty much the SAME thing…Yeah dude you are screwed. It was a four cylender, and the guts of the moter looked like some one put M80s in each bore and set em off.lol But the block was fine. I actually had a buddy rebuild the moter using the same block and port polishing the cylender walls..but yeah short of that your screwed sorry.lol
[quote=”UncleJohn” post=59454]LOL Im so sorry man I hate to laugh but I bought a 82 Toyota Corolla Stationwagon for a kid (200 bucks body rusted to heck but the engine tran was great and rock solid running, thing was a beast too.) Anyway it was just a standard five speed…He did pretty much the SAME thing…Yeah dude you are screwed. It was a four cylender, and the guts of the moter looked like some one put M80s in each bore and set em off.lol But the block was fine. I actually had a buddy rebuild the moter using the same block and port polishing the cylender walls..but yeah short of that your screwed sorry.lol[/quote]
As I’ve just found out. The shop called me, said I need a new engine and they can pop one in (with 100k) for $2275. No can afford….
So I can attempt a swap with a $200 junkyard engine, or buy a $1000 car. My friend suggested I do both, which may not actually be a bad idea– I’ll have transportation so I can take my time with the swap and make sure I do it right. I’ve got about a week between school ending and work starting, so after my final final today, I guess it’s time to start seriously car shopping.
Toyota engines are very very very very well built..Short of doing what you and that kid did, you CANT destroy them, they will outlive three cars even if you never change the oil, or the oil filter, and feed them the worst gas on the planet, and cover em in every form of dirt you can imagine, all while doing 75 on the interstate.lol
So if that 200 dollar junkyard moter is a toyota moter, i would take that any day.
[quote=”UncleJohn” post=59466]Toyota engines are very very very very well built..Short of doing what you and that kid did, you CANT destroy them, they will outlive three cars even if you never change the oil, or the oil filter, and feed them the worst gas on the planet, and cover em in every form of dirt you can imagine, all while doing 75 on the interstate.lol
So if that 200 dollar junkyard moter is a toyota moter, i would take that any day.[/quote]
The problem is I’ve never done this sort of a job before, so I have no idea if I can do it or even how long it would take if I could. Plus I may need a new clutch, as I tried to restart in 5th and since the engine was seized, the clutch had to give. Shame too as that clutch had about 20k on it.
That’s why I’m thinking of doing both. I get transportation, I get time, and if worse comes to worst, I sell the Corolla sans engine for a few hundred bucks.
[quote=”dohc-kindaguy” post=59471]I disagree on the part about the oil. But take care of them, and they’ll take care of you.[/quote]
Actually, I agree. My car burned pretty badly and I rarely checked it, I would occasionally find just a drip on the end of the dipstick and the car still ran perfectly. “Self-changing oil” as I called it. That’s a feature, not a bug :cheer:
lol Yup. You really should maintain them but if you dont..eh they dont mind.lol I never did anything to that 82 toyota, didnt even change the oil. There was no service history at all with the car, not even a lube sticker form a lube shop in the window..NOTHING!! lol
[quote=”lifeinhd” post=59473]Actually, I agree. My car burned pretty badly and I rarely checked it, I would occasionally find just a drip on the end of the dipstick and the car still ran perfectly. “Self-changing oil” as I called it. That’s a feature, not a bug :cheer:[/quote]
Well the oil was being changed none-the-less… It wasn’t turning to crud as oil does, because it was never in there long enough… Some cars don’t mind low oil, but all of them mind no oil.
I’m still calling BS on “never changing oil ever out lasting 3 cars” deal unless they were like totaled all about in a 2 year time frame 😛
My focus has no shop records either both me and the PO was a DIY-kindaguy. So no records were needed to be kept, and I know he change the oil just by me taking the valve cover off…
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