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    tony r davistony r davis
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      i have a 03 pontiac grand am that will crank but not start. the fuel pump activates when you turn the key. changed fuel filter, and plugs cause the terminals were gone. when i push in the bleeder valve, i dont get anything. no air or fuel. so i figured it is a spark problem and tested the ignition coils and all 3 coils tested at 5.4 ohm. but at this point, im lost. if anyonw can give me some insight into my problem id really like to hear it.

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      Todd SmithTodd Smith
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        When you say you push on the bleeder valve, are you talking about the fuel pressure test port on the fuel rail? And you say you do have fuel there?

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        tony r davistony r davis
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          yes, thats the port. and no, no fuel. only a very small amount of air hisses out. it cranks fast so i have the suspicion that the timing belt is broke, but still strive for better answers.

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          Todd SmithTodd Smith
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            Bad timing belt or no, you should have fuel squirting out of that port. Ideally, you would rent a fuel pressure test kit and take a reading to confirm, as a first step.

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            tony r davistony r davis
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              ill do that, thanks Tods213

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              A toyotakarlIts me
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                If the fuel pump is working, you will hear it initially run 3-5 seconds to prime the system and build up pressure. When you turn the key to crank, it looks for a crank signal to keep the fuel pump running. No crank signal will not allow fuel to flow (means no power to the fuel pump) (it is a safety thing).

                Best thing would be to test your fuel pressure with a gauge. but if you have a tach, see if the RPM’s are going up when you are trying to crank… This works on some cars, but not all.

                Ohms are not a very good way to test coils. Best done by seeing if there is a spark with a spark tester.

                You can get a spark plug tester very inexpensively at flea markets/ Harbor freight or a auto parts store.

                A couple of inexpensive tools are required for proper diagnosis.

                Good luck!

                -Karl

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