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So this has been around for a while but I’ve found quite a bit on it. HHO. Basically water, a catalyst and an electric current from the cars battery turn water into oxygen and hydrogen gas. This is connected to the intake and then goes into the combustion process creating more power and raising gas efficiency. It also cleans out the carbon deposits since it creates water after the combustion. V-)
It all seems legit. The science makes sense and there are countless people who swear by it. However, I have seen people saying its a scam and that it doesn’t work. W-|
The only argument that seemed notable is the hydrogen to air intake ratio- that is, the amount of air an engine takes in compared to the amount of hydrogen produced is too large a difference to make an impact. I’m wondering if the system could make more hydrogen somehow or even because of the combustible properties of hydrogen that you don’t need too much to make a difference. I think I will buy a cheap kit and see how it does since it doesn’t take very long to install but I’m wondering if anyone has actually tried it or can do the math about the ratio of hydrogen to air intake.
here are some links for reference:
http://www.money4smartphones.com/docume … lation.pdf
http://hhoexposed.com/HHO-Review.html
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.actio … 4977328910
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It’s snake oil. Popular Mechanics tested it, and they described their findings much more eloquently than I can. Here’s a link. http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/al … ge/4276846
For more reading, check this out. http://www.popularmechanics.com/archive … leage/0/10
So I’ve been doing a lot of research on this matter and have started constructing the device to see for myself what’s going on here. I’m leaning in its favor for now. What I have read, the science behind it does check out. Its just a matter of the cell itself. I see that there are cheap cells that do produce HHO but do not do so efficiently. There is a lot of research behind the way electricity behaves in these systems in order to produce the most efficient system. Many people have tried it and swear by it. So I wonder why I find more information for it rather than against it. I noticed that reputable sources have debunked the HHO systems but it seems like they have only debunked select systems such as the ones that sell for $30 on ebay or fail to test all the necessary components for the system.
I will update this post with more information (that will be unbiased since I don’t have anything to lose in this forum). I have ordered a few electrical components as well as am building a cell based on a design I have seen produce HHO. I will be testing the electrical components first, mainly the performance chip needed for my car specifically since my car needs something special and then I will test the cars performance and fuel efficiency with the HHO cell installed both with the chip activated and inactivated. This should tell me what exactly is changing my fuel efficiency, if any.
Ill repost with pictures and data eventually. I just gotta build up the courage to go ahead and spend money on a scangauge or something.
I think HHO is kind of scary my self.
And Yes I also think it’s a scam and not worth the money but, prove me wrong by all means if you have the money.C8-)So I bought an Ultra Gauge and it works pretty well. Although I have a question that I will ask in another forum. But I also bought a Volo chip especially for the HHO systems. It was inexpensive and my car needs one to trick computer when reading both the O2 sensors and MAP sensor. Sounds shady right?
I did a bit of testing but not some solid tests. fueleconomy.gov says my car is rated at 22 city- 29 highway. That sounds horrible, I know it wasnt that bad before. Upon doing a quick 10 mile mixed run in my car with the gauge I averaged about 29 mpg with the same distance of city and highway. So either the goverment lies or that CAI, performance header and catback performance exhaust actually did something for my economy. I installed the chip and this time did my daily routine which consisted of about 40 miles of driving, roughly. I averaged 32 mpg. Thats not a big difference considering the change in variables but still an improvement. It said I have to drive about 120 miles for the chip to completely get adjusted. I never believed the chip fuel economy scams. I just got it cuz it is programmed to make my car behave when HHO is introduced into the system. So thats my testing so far. I’d say theres is a very minor difference in economy and for the record will average my car’s mpg at 30 city/highway. If this system boosts it up to 35+ then I’ll consider it worth the money after I do the math. Claims also say that my car will idle better and have a little more throttle response as well as clean out the carbon deposits in my system.
The more I read on all this the more I think that it could ?work. Its just a matter of perfecting the technology and having the correct circumstances. My car seems to always be the exception though so I think this will be a good test.
I spoke with a guy who has dedicated a great amount of time to this without making money off it, he has it on his car and claims very high mpgs. There is a lot of research put into it on his part so I at least see a case study that works.
http://www.hho4free.com/
if anyones interested on reading about it. let me know if they see anything I missed.I too have been looking into this “HHO” idea. Been all over the internet about it and learned a lot. A few things I have come across were: To use an in-line fuse between the battery and the cell itself; One reason was so it would blow and not cause other problems if the cell were to draw to much and over heat. Also to use a 15amp fuse since too much draw on the alternator just causes the car to burn more gas…. so no gain.
Also the ratio if your using gas/hho hybrid compared to just using straight HHO and no gasoline.. varies greatly especially on the engine size. Example: 1/4 to 1/2 LPM of hho gas per Liter of Motor size.
And to prevent excessive heating the cell should be at least 11 plates. Which reduces your voltage between plates to 1.24 Volts.
Lots of info for sure. I plan on creating my own very soon on a small scale to run a lawnmower engine strictly on HHO only. If that is a success I am putting it in my project car.
Few things to keep in mind is that if you don’t have an equiped “dryer” small amounts of moisture may still make it into the combustion chamber.. have read that getting stainless steel exhaust and ceramic coated valves and pistions are a good option. Its an expensive design but if you can get it working.. its worth the money in the end. Specially if you can go completely HHO.
The evidence that has made me believe on a certain level of it even working was that “Myth busters” show has actually done this. They didn’t bust it nor did they say it could work. BUT!!!! they did with pure Hydrogen gas get a car (with no gasoline in the lines) to start up. Mind you they got an explosion since it was a rough test and no flash arrester in place.High amounts don’t work! Its on YouTube if anyone is interested in seen that episode of their show.
I believe its the future of cars. Honda has released their new car (Honda FCX Clarity) recently that runs on water (hydrogen). Go Honda! http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/ check it out!
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjfONpsFvyM:34yjlt3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjfONpsFvyM
H[/url]ave you seen Jack Nicholson’s 1979 hydrogen car?probably just causes more wear on the engine. especially the alternator. and think even more water during combustion could get in your oil from blow-by but probably still a negligible amount.
“Well there ya go!” lol
Thumbs up to sirobinson for your project. Will be interested in the future if you have much success with this. Like to see photos sometime.
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