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I found that car manufactures will only be too happy to sell you another car when your old one is worn out. If they said to never change your engine oil, would you not change it?
good point but common sense tells you change engine oil but common sense also tells you that coolant tranny fluid PS fluid never needs to be changed
[quote=”wysetech” post=65243]I found that car manufactures will only be too happy to sell you another car when your old one is worn out. If they said to never change your engine oil, would you not change it?[/quote]
Big difference !Engine oil has additives that wear out. It is also subject to more extremes. And as as good as piston rings are, there is a certain amount of blow by from combustion that gets into the oil.
Not changing, does not mean not checking (although some idiot at Ford decided to eliminate the transmission fluid dipstick for a couple of years). Maintaining the proper level (too much in some ways is worse than not enough) is important.
Also, at the first sign of discoloration, the fluid should be changed.
I believe that all automotive fluids get old after some time. And should be checked and replaced accordingly.
yeah a lot of cars don’t have service intervals for transmission fluid or others. Some scions or toyotas Ive noticed in particular.
They know how long it will take the car to wear out if you follow their “recommendations”, then you buy a new car.
You can still change the fluid, just leave the filter. I think a standard tranny fluid recommendation for automatics is: Change it the first time at 60K miles, then every 30K after that.
For manual transmission, I think every 30K is acceptable.
Just use your common sense. If the fluid looks bad or smells burnt, might as well change it.
Well if your willing to take the risk just to save A few Bucks go ahead, But i Personally believe you should change all the fluids
[quote=”LeoTheLion89″ post=65244]good point but common sense tells you change engine oil but common sense also tells you that coolant tranny fluid PS fluid never needs to be changed[/quote]
I don’t want to be rude, but you sir are stupid for thinking that. Some cars, like my truck, requires the coolant to be change due to rust building up in the engine/water pump. If you do not change it, you will clog up the passage ways, ruin your radiator, and destroy your water pump, and likely destroy the engine if it over heats enough due to that.
Just the other day, there was a loud winning noise comming from my truck, 4days ago, I located it coming from my power steering. My guess is water built up enough to cause this problem. I decided to remove as much as I could, and refill it. After that the winning noise went away! So you telling me that, and me listening to you, could of ended up either blowing my motor, ruining my power steering pump, ruin my radiator, ruin the water pump, and pretty much destory my truck.
Next, about 8months ago, my tranny [5speed] was getting harder to shift normally, thinking that the 190k on my tranny is due to normal wear and tear. However I decided to change the fluid. And guess what? My transmission in my ford ranger, shifts smoother then my problems 2011 Ford Ranger 5speed. If I kept the old tranny fluid, I could of just kept that old ATF fluid, and ended up within a year having a junk tranny that would need replacing.
I’m just going to skip over you stating not to change your brake fluid; because I already have good examples of well over 6thousand dollars of damages I could of done to my truck if I had not listen to you.
You sir have well over 600posts on this forum, which would believe to other members that you know what your talking about, and pretty much members would listen to your advice.
The problem I have here, is that your not stating reasoning behind your facts, but are simply guessing, which is apparently showing me that you have no knowledge of cars;giving the worst advice I’ve ever seen in my life to other people. ADVICE THAT COULD OF COSTED ME WELL OVER 6GRAND IN REPAIRS and I’m just one person who read your post. Do you even understand how much damage you could/will do if people follow your advice? Your just a fucking retard and need to be ban from this website with advice like that, period.
Edit: On part with the tranny and me replacing the ATF fluid in my 5speed: That is the OEM recommended fluid to replace in my 2002 Ford Ranger M50D Madza 5speed Transmission. Users should always report to their own owners manual for what fluid they should use in their own cars; as they will differ.
A Daewoo Lanos and im sure all its counterparts Aveo Spark Sonic etc… Requires Dextron III PS/ AT fluid. However being how Daewoos lack the Tranny Dipstick on automatic models not much can be done about even checking the fluid. My facts are based upon MY CAR only they could include other Daewoo makes (Aveo, Cruze, Spark, etc….) or could even apply to other Korean cars. My manual specifically states under normal driving conditions Tranny fluid and filter change is NOT Needed. Manual tranny versions require changing. As for coolant my car has coolant it had in it from FACTORY up until a few months ago. it was JUST tested before the T-stat housing blew and the car pissed it all out and it was GOOD to -34F that is pretty good on 12yo coolant if u ask me. Its had Factory PS fluid never changed and never had any problems at all up to the point by brake lines blew ive never had to add brake fluid at all either not sure about the shop but I never have. hell ive never even had to add oil and infact Oil in my car needs to be changed every 32 months Daewoo’s are pretty durable cars they will run forever on nothing but oil changes alone of course all of this could be to the fact i only have 42860 miles on my car
Car manufacturers make a lot of recommendations that are idiotic with the result being that the car suffers. All fluids break down over time due to heat, contaminants, moisture in the air, etc.
One particular car manufacturer told a car owner who asked about the change interval for automatic transmission fluid that the fluid “should be changed when it’s black and smells really nasty”.
This was apparently said with a straight face……..Car manufacturers also make bogus recommendations about the inspection of valve lash on mechanical lifter engines with both mileage intervals and the actual procedure to determine whether it’s needed or not. “Listen to the valves and see if they’re noisy” is just as hokey as the above trans fluid recommendation.
Why do car makers advise not changing fluids? It’s a marketing thing to make their cars appear to be as maintenance free as possible which then aids in selling the cars. Not changing fluids will usually get the car out of the warranty period…………..
[quote=”gxx” post=65895][quote=”LeoTheLion89″ post=65244]good point but common sense tells you change engine oil but common sense also tells you that coolant tranny fluid PS fluid never needs to be changed[/quote]
I don’t want to be rude, but you sir are stupid for thinking that. Some cars, like my truck, requires the coolant to be change due to rust building up in the engine/water pump. If you do not change it, you will clog up the passage ways, ruin your radiator, and destroy your water pump, and likely destroy the engine if it over heats enough due to that.
Just the other day, there was a loud winning noise comming from my truck, 4days ago, I located it coming from my power steering. My guess is water built up enough to cause this problem. I decided to remove as much as I could, and refill it. After that the winning noise went away! So you telling me that, and me listening to you, could of ended up either blowing my motor, ruining my power steering pump, ruin my radiator, ruin the water pump, and pretty much destory my truck.
Next, about 8months ago, my tranny [5speed] was getting harder to shift normally, thinking that the 190k on my tranny is due to normal wear and tear. However I decided to change the fluid. And guess what? My transmission in my ford ranger, shifts smoother then my problems 2011 Ford Ranger 5speed. If I kept the old tranny fluid, I could of just kept that old ATF fluid, and ended up within a year having a junk tranny that would need replacing.
I’m just going to skip over you stating not to change your brake fluid; because I already have good examples of well over 6thousand dollars of damages I could of done to my truck if I had not listen to you.
You sir have well over 600posts on this forum, which would believe to other members that you know what your talking about, and pretty much members would listen to your advice.
The problem I have here, is that your not stating reasoning behind your facts, but are simply guessing, which is apparently showing me that you have no knowledge of cars;giving the worst advice I’ve ever seen in my life to other people. ADVICE THAT COULD OF COSTED ME WELL OVER 6GRAND IN REPAIRS and I’m just one person who read your post. Do you even understand how much damage you could/will do if people follow your advice? Your just a fucking retard and need to be ban from this website with advice like that, period.
Edit: On part with the tranny and me replacing the ATF fluid in my 5speed: That is the OEM recommended fluid to replace in my 2002 Ford Ranger M50D Madza 5speed Transmission. Users should always report to their own owners manual for what fluid they should use in their own cars; as they will differ.[/quote]
I appreciate that you have strong opinions regarding the posts of some of the other members. That’s OK. I’d like to ask that you refrain from personal attacks however and calling people ‘stupid’. This really isn’t necessary and if it continues, it could get you banned from the site. I also agree that changing fluids, all fluids, on a regular basis is a good practice. However I would not use such language in responding to the posts of others. This is a community of people trying to help each other, not the school playground. We may not always get it right, we may not always agree, but that doesn’t mean we need to resort to personal attacks in order to make a point.
Disagree all you like, debate is healthy. Just stay away from name calling and personal attacks.
Thank you
[quote=”EricTheCarGuy” post=65948]… I also agree that changing fluids, all fluids, on a regular basis is a good practice.[/quote]
The problem is what is a “regular basis” ?Many people still change their oil every 3,000 miles and I thank them (I own stock in oil companies and I love big dividends) while Ford (and I will guess other car companies) now recommend 7,500 miles between oil changes under normal driving conditions.
I still say, follow the manufactures recommendation. If there is no specific interval listed for transmission fluid change, I would not argue you with 100,000 miles. I have a 15 year old truck with 120,000 mile and the factory installed ATF is still clean.
But as Eric has said in his videos USE THE MANUFACTURER SPECIFIC TRANSMISSION FLUID !
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